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Old 03-25-2021, 06:06 PM
 
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Nope, don't envy Ukraine either. But last I checked they ordered the other Chinese vaccine, not sinovac. Thought this was the Russian thread tho? I know, whatabout Ukraine, the standard Russian defense for its clear inferiority to the West.

It's pretty simple DKM - as soon as you start talking about "Russia's inferiority" and "West superiority," Ukraine immediately comes to mind. So it decided to submit itself under the "superior West" instead of the "inferior Russia." So how did it work out for them?

Rest assured that if Russians will ever decide to submit under the "Western superiority," the results will be the same and even worse ( if such thing is possible.)
So I'd say given the choice, Russians will get by with their Sputnik V and whatever other vaccines they created. After all, whatever they poked in me throughout my childhood sure didn't kill me; in fact it worked, since Russians were pretty successful in fighting the epidemics.

I just wish they'd yell at me less in the process)))
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Old 03-25-2021, 10:59 PM
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Yeah they used to say that about South Korea too.
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Old 03-26-2021, 12:04 AM
 
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Envy is definitely not something I'm feeling right now. I don't envy the Russian who has no choice but getting their unproven vaccines. I'll stick with my Pfizer shot.
Of course not, well, who would doubt it ) Otherwise, it is clear to everyone that to your envy, there is still a certain amount of annoyance and rage . Well, what can I do? Please accept my condolences.
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Old 03-26-2021, 12:42 AM
 
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Russia has begun spaceplane project, says Soviet shuttle designer

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-s...-idUSKBN2BG1YR

I like the Dream chaser better
I think it will not be implemented. From existing interesting Roscosmos's projects the nuclear-powered space tug Nuclon can reach to space tests.
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Old 03-26-2021, 12:47 AM
 
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I just wish they'd yell at me less in the process)))
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Old 03-26-2021, 05:31 AM
 
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I think it will not be implemented. From existing interesting Roscosmos's projects the nuclear-powered space tug Nuclon can reach to space tests.
Why not? To do this, in general, everything is there.As far as I know, this is an unmanned vehicle.
It is much lighter than Buran, does not require such monstrous capacity and launch costs.
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Old 03-26-2021, 11:32 AM
 
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Why not? To do this, in general, everything is there.As far as I know, this is an unmanned vehicle.
It is much lighter than Buran, does not require such monstrous capacity and launch costs.
NPO Molniya is not Roscosmos now, it is part of Kalashnikov. Why does Kalashnikov need a civilian space shuttle? What rocket will take it into space? This is very strange.
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Old 03-26-2021, 12:53 PM
 
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NPO Molniya is not Roscosmos now, it is part of Kalashnikov. Why does Kalashnikov need a civilian space shuttle? What rocket will take it into space? This is very strange.
There is nothing surprising. Roscosmos is involved in this case, the NGO "Molniya" has a lot of developments on this topic, it is not for nothing that they have revived them.If there is an order, then there is also a payload for which this shuttle is needed.
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Old 03-26-2021, 02:17 PM
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Gazprom moved back its promised NS2 opening to 2022. Any day now!
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Old 03-26-2021, 03:11 PM
 
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It's pretty simple DKM - as soon as you start talking about "Russia's inferiority" and "West superiority," Ukraine immediately comes to mind. So it decided to submit itself under the "superior West" instead of the "inferior Russia." So how did it work out for them?

Rest assured that if Russians will ever decide to submit under the "Western superiority," the results will be the same and even worse ( if such thing is possible.)
So I'd say given the choice, Russians will get by with their Sputnik V and whatever other vaccines they created. After all, whatever they poked in me throughout my childhood sure didn't kill me; in fact it worked, since Russians were pretty successful in fighting the epidemics.

I just wish they'd yell at me less in the process)))
He has an inferiority complex. Like the ones who try to pump Russia, he tried to dump Russia even where there's nothing.

You can't use the mRNA vaccines in backward countries where they don't have special refrigeration equipment for storage and transportation.

The recombinant DNA vaccines like Sputnik, J&J, and the Chinese version are more robust in handling and distribution. They're essentially doing the same job as the mRNA vaccine, communicating to the human cells to produce the specific protein encoded in the virus vector and triggering a immune reaction.

They both do the same job. The mRNA vaccines are faster to produce since you don't have to grow the adenovirus.

A lot of the credit given to mRNA vaccines being first to apply for approvals should also be written off to taking short cuts in testing. That's one of the reasons why many in the field are taking a wait-and-see approach and Europe is limiting distribution to 16-to-64 and those without autoimmune disorders.

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