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Old 02-25-2022, 01:43 AM
 
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I gotta say President Zelensky has some balls. He is still in Kyiv staying there with his people, while the Russians are running around with there disgusting mobile crematorium trying to find him.

Wonder if Putin would do that or if he would just flee on his 125 millions private yacht?
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Old 02-25-2022, 02:00 AM
 
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Well, what I want to say, guys.. According to reports from the field the main phase of the special operation for the denazification of Ukraine is almost over. Almost the entire military infrastructure of Ukraine has been destroyed. Military airfields, air defense systems, radar stations, headquarters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Air Force, Navy. The Ukrainian army, basically, either flees or surrenders. Some Nazis continue to resist, but they are simply destroyed. There is a lot of cleanup going on. So, as they say, the concert is over, everyone goes home.

The constitutions of the republics state that they exist within the territorial boundaries of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions. I think this will be limited.

To be sure, western media is heavily censored and it is difficult to find any useful information from the field, but by the same token your assessment above appears too rosy.

I did read a snippet from Washington Post that Russian troops are closing in on Kiev, but still outside the city center (the rest of the article is pay-walled, screw them). Do you think the Ukraine president is really in a basement somewhere in Kiev and that Russian troops can flush him out of a hole, somewhat analogous to what US troops did to Saddam Hussein not too long ago?

Any detailed news from ground level in and around Mariupol, Kherson, Odessa, and Kharkiv?

Though I understand the geostrategic importance of the immediate northeast and the southern littoral, I was surprised by the breadth and depth of the military intervention. I initially thought it would be limited in scope, but obviously I’m not a military planner or commander.

The jpg map that erasure provided was insightful, thank you.

So I’m wondering if Russian troops would “just go home” with respect to Kharkiv and the southern littoral, or, on the contrary perhaps they would stay a long time and perhaps even try to link up with Transnistria?

I saw some rogue video on YouTube claiming that NATO was about to attack Transnistria, but the images were just a bunch of stale photos and maybe some streaming from a video game, I’m not sure.

Anyway back to erasure’s question, how limited is “limited”?

And what have been some of the setbacks, resistance, and other difficulties experienced by the Russian military, especially in the Kharkiv oblast and the southern littoral?

Thank you.
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Old 02-25-2022, 03:09 AM
 
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To be sure, western media is heavily censored and it is difficult to find any useful information from the field, but by the same token your assessment above appears too rosy.
A little embellished, but very close to the truth. Such a map of military targets (ammunition depots, headquarters, air defense systems, airfields, etc.) is circulating on the Internet, which were hit by high-precision Kalibr missiles.


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I did read a snippet from Washington Post that Russian troops are closing in on Kiev, but still outside the city center (the rest of the article is pay-walled, screw them). Do you think the Ukraine president is really in a basement somewhere in Kiev and that Russian troops can flush him out of a hole, somewhat analogous to what US troops did to Saddam Hussein not too long ago?
Nobody knows exactly where Zelensky is located. A bunch of rumors and speculation. According to some sources, he is in Kiev, according to other sources in France, according to third ones in Germany.

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Any detailed news from ground level in and around Mariupol, Kherson, Odessa, and Kharkiv?

Though I understand the geostrategic importance of the immediate northeast and the southern littoral, I was surprised by the breadth and depth of the military intervention. I initially thought it would be limited in scope, but obviously I’m not a military planner or commander.

The jpg map that erasure provided was insightful, thank you.

So I’m wondering if Russian troops would “just go home” with respect to Kharkiv and the southern littoral, or, on the contrary perhaps they would stay a long time and perhaps even try to link up with Transnistria?

I saw some rogue video on YouTube claiming that NATO was about to attack Transnistria, but the images were just a bunch of stale photos and maybe some streaming from a video game, I’m not sure.

Anyway back to erasure’s question, how limited is “limited”?

And what have been some of the setbacks, resistance, and other difficulties experienced by the Russian military, especially in the Kharkiv oblast and the southern littoral?

Thank you.
Highlights by direction:

Spoiler
1. LDNR - the positional nature of hostilities remains, with the attempts of the LDNR armies to advance to the borders of the territories occupied by the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
2. Southern direction - The RF Armed Forces retained control over the bridge across the Dnieper near Kherson, repelling counterattack attempts by the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The fighting in the area of ​​the Antonovsky bridge continues.
New Kakhovka is also held. Melitopol was taken this morning and the advance began in the direction of Berdyansk.
3. Kharkov direction - fighting continues on the near approaches to Kharkov. Both sides suffer losses in men and equipment.
4. Sumy direction - the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation took Putivl and passing through Sumy (there continued the battle at the airport today), advanced to Konotop, surrounding the city. Today, attempts continued to take Akhtyrka in order to reach Kharkov from the west. Russian checkpoints have been set up on the Sumy-Kiev highway. There is an advance towards Kiev and Chernigov. (The Armed Forces of Ukraine repulsed the attack of the RF Armed Forces in the Chernihiv direction).
5. Kiev - Gostomel airfield is held by paratroopers. The APU was never able to knock them out. This morning, tank columns of the RF Armed Forces broke through to the nearest approaches to Kiev and are close to establishing a direct connection with the landing force. The Armed Forces of Ukraine are preparing a counterattack, declaring that another landing will be thrown out in the Gostomel area today. The Pentagon says that Kiev will fall in the coming days. After 10 o'clock, shooting was heard in the city. Also, according to the statement of the Armed Forces of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, the landing was thrown to the west of Zhytomyr. The Armed Forces of Ukraine are actively undermining bridges on the outskirts, trying to slow down the advance of the RF Armed Forces,
6. In the morning, attacks on military facilities of the Armed Forces of Ukraine throughout Ukraine continued. A Su-27 of the Ukrainian Air Force was shot down over Kiev - according to one version, by the Russian air defense system, according to another, by the Ukrainian ones. The downed "Caliber" fell on a residential building in Kiev, but there were no casualties. During the shelling of Gorlovka, a school was hit - 2 teachers were killed.
7. The Armed Forces of Ukraine launched a missile attack on the Millerovo airfield in the territory of the Russian Federation. Damage is reported at the airfield, but there are no aircraft casualties.
https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/7464786.html


Official statement of the Ministry of Defense
Spoiler
✔️The grouping of troops of the Donetsk People's Republic in the Volnovakha direction, overcoming the stubborn resistance of the enemy, advanced one more kilometer deep into the defense of the nationalist battalions.
The grouping of troops of the Lugansk People's Republic in the Stepovoe area advanced to a depth of 9 kilometers.

✔️ During the hostilities, more than 150 servicemen of various law enforcement agencies of Ukraine laid down their arms and surrendered.

✔️In the area of ​​Zmeiny Island, 82 Ukrainian servicemen laid down their arms and voluntarily surrendered to a unit of the Russian Armed Forces. At present, they are being asked to sign a refusal to participate in hostilities. In the near future they will be returned to their families.

✔️Another 11 servicemen of the 53rd separate mechanized brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine surrendered near the settlement of Nikolaevsk. Also, one of the units of the marines of the 36th separate brigade of the marines of the Armed Forces of Ukraine contacted the command of the people's militia of the DPR and requested a corridor to enter the territory of the republic. After surrendering their weapons, they will also be able to return to their families.

✔️After the stabilization of the situation in the combat area, all surrendered Ukrainian servicemen will be released home.

✔️In the course of a special military operation, the Russian Armed Forces disabled 118 military facilities of the military infrastructure of Ukraine.

Among them: 11 military airfields, 13 command posts and communication centers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, 14 S-300 and Osa anti-aircraft missile systems, 36 radar stations.

Shot down: 5 combat aircraft, 1 helicopter, 5 unmanned aerial vehicles.
18 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 7 multiple rocket launchers, 41 units of special military vehicles and 5 combat boats were destroyed.

✔️Yesterday February 24 this year units of the Russian Airborne Troops took full control of the territory in the area of ​​the Chernobyl nuclear power plant.

✔️An agreement was reached with the servicemen of a separate battalion of protection of the nuclear power plant of Ukraine on joint security of the power units and the sarcophagus of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant.
The radioactive background in the area of ​​the nuclear power plant is normal. NPP personnel continue to service NPP facilities in the normal mode and monitor the radioactive situation.

The joint actions of Russian paratroopers and Ukrainian military personnel of the NPP security battalion to defend the plant is a guarantee that nationalist formations or other terrorist organizations will not be able to take advantage of the current situation in the country to organize a nuclear provocation
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Old 02-25-2022, 04:10 AM
 
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I am thunderstruck.

At first I believed Putin would never sacrifice the Oligarchs wealth and stand up for Russia, but he did. At a heavy sacrifice Russia is the only country standing against the wave of western domination.

And not the 'free and democratic' sort of domination, but the sort that funds and protects Nazi war criminals who burn civilians alive to get their way.

The whole world was silent as the junta in Kiev armed terrorist Nazis, bombed civilians, and all under the guise of 'democracy'. Now Russia, at great cost to themselves, have decided to oppose the wave of propaganda that sought to inoculate Europe under the control of a single ideology.

It may cost them their freedom. Putin may yet lose, but despite it all the Russian state has put their foot down. God Bless them.
Russia is the Pariah of the world, and a Russian bot isn't going to convince anybody otherwise!
Putin is living in the 19th Century, Russia hasn't even moved on from a WWII mindset. Russia is isolated and hated all thanks to an evil meglomaniac that has invaded a seperate sovereign state. Meanwhile any Russian that dares to demonstrate for peace is hauled off the streets of Moscow and sent god knows where. What Russia is doing is the single most evil thing since Hitler. I somehow doubt that 'God' is going to bless that particular individual!
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Old 02-25-2022, 04:18 AM
 
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Substantive and very helpful. I will search some of these toponyms on a map. Does the Defense Ministry publish statements in English, like the President’s office?

During the Gulf wars, I rarely tuned into mass media, hearing or reading instead statements by US military officials.

Today, when US officials make statements like they expect Kiev to fall in a couple of days, it reinforces the impression that US policy makers view the Ukrainians as pawns in a bigger chess game.

Anyway, thank you.

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A little embellished, but very close to the truth. Such a map of military targets (ammunition depots, headquarters, air defense systems, airfields, etc.) is circulating on the Internet, which were hit by high-precision Kalibr missiles.




Nobody knows exactly where Zelensky is located. A bunch of rumors and speculation. According to some sources, he is in Kiev, according to other sources in France, according to third ones in Germany.



Highlights by direction:

Spoiler
1. LDNR - the positional nature of hostilities remains, with the attempts of the LDNR armies to advance to the borders of the territories occupied by the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
2. Southern direction - The RF Armed Forces retained control over the bridge across the Dnieper near Kherson, repelling counterattack attempts by the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The fighting in the area of ​​the Antonovsky bridge continues.
New Kakhovka is also held. Melitopol was taken this morning and the advance began in the direction of Berdyansk.
3. Kharkov direction - fighting continues on the near approaches to Kharkov. Both sides suffer losses in men and equipment.
4. Sumy direction - the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation took Putivl and passing through Sumy (there continued the battle at the airport today), advanced to Konotop, surrounding the city. Today, attempts continued to take Akhtyrka in order to reach Kharkov from the west. Russian checkpoints have been set up on the Sumy-Kiev highway. There is an advance towards Kiev and Chernigov. (The Armed Forces of Ukraine repulsed the attack of the RF Armed Forces in the Chernihiv direction).
5. Kiev - Gostomel airfield is held by paratroopers. The APU was never able to knock them out. This morning, tank columns of the RF Armed Forces broke through to the nearest approaches to Kiev and are close to establishing a direct connection with the landing force. The Armed Forces of Ukraine are preparing a counterattack, declaring that another landing will be thrown out in the Gostomel area today. The Pentagon says that Kiev will fall in the coming days. After 10 o'clock, shooting was heard in the city. Also, according to the statement of the Armed Forces of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, the landing was thrown to the west of Zhytomyr. The Armed Forces of Ukraine are actively undermining bridges on the outskirts, trying to slow down the advance of the RF Armed Forces,
6. In the morning, attacks on military facilities of the Armed Forces of Ukraine throughout Ukraine continued. A Su-27 of the Ukrainian Air Force was shot down over Kiev - according to one version, by the Russian air defense system, according to another, by the Ukrainian ones. The downed "Caliber" fell on a residential building in Kiev, but there were no casualties. During the shelling of Gorlovka, a school was hit - 2 teachers were killed.
7. The Armed Forces of Ukraine launched a missile attack on the Millerovo airfield in the territory of the Russian Federation. Damage is reported at the airfield, but there are no aircraft casualties.
https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/7464786.html


Official statement of the Ministry of Defense
Spoiler
✔️The grouping of troops of the Donetsk People's Republic in the Volnovakha direction, overcoming the stubborn resistance of the enemy, advanced one more kilometer deep into the defense of the nationalist battalions.
The grouping of troops of the Lugansk People's Republic in the Stepovoe area advanced to a depth of 9 kilometers.

✔️ During the hostilities, more than 150 servicemen of various law enforcement agencies of Ukraine laid down their arms and surrendered.

✔️In the area of ​​Zmeiny Island, 82 Ukrainian servicemen laid down their arms and voluntarily surrendered to a unit of the Russian Armed Forces. At present, they are being asked to sign a refusal to participate in hostilities. In the near future they will be returned to their families.

✔️Another 11 servicemen of the 53rd separate mechanized brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine surrendered near the settlement of Nikolaevsk. Also, one of the units of the marines of the 36th separate brigade of the marines of the Armed Forces of Ukraine contacted the command of the people's militia of the DPR and requested a corridor to enter the territory of the republic. After surrendering their weapons, they will also be able to return to their families.

✔️After the stabilization of the situation in the combat area, all surrendered Ukrainian servicemen will be released home.

✔️In the course of a special military operation, the Russian Armed Forces disabled 118 military facilities of the military infrastructure of Ukraine.

Among them: 11 military airfields, 13 command posts and communication centers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, 14 S-300 and Osa anti-aircraft missile systems, 36 radar stations.

Shot down: 5 combat aircraft, 1 helicopter, 5 unmanned aerial vehicles.
18 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 7 multiple rocket launchers, 41 units of special military vehicles and 5 combat boats were destroyed.

✔️Yesterday February 24 this year units of the Russian Airborne Troops took full control of the territory in the area of ​​the Chernobyl nuclear power plant.

✔️An agreement was reached with the servicemen of a separate battalion of protection of the nuclear power plant of Ukraine on joint security of the power units and the sarcophagus of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant.
The radioactive background in the area of ​​the nuclear power plant is normal. NPP personnel continue to service NPP facilities in the normal mode and monitor the radioactive situation.

The joint actions of Russian paratroopers and Ukrainian military personnel of the NPP security battalion to defend the plant is a guarantee that nationalist formations or other terrorist organizations will not be able to take advantage of the current situation in the country to organize a nuclear provocation
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Old 02-25-2022, 04:28 AM
 
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Russia is the Pariah of the world, and a Russian bot isn't going to convince anybody otherwise!
Putin is living in the 19th Century, Russia hasn't even moved on from a WWII mindset. Russia is isolated and hated all thanks to an evil meglomaniac that has invaded a seperate sovereign state. Meanwhile any Russian that dares to demonstrate for peace is hauled off the streets of Moscow and sent god knows where. What Russia is doing is the single most evil thing since Hitler. I somehow doubt that 'God' is going to bless that particular individual!
I will answer you with one quote:

"I know 100 ways to lure a Russian bear out of its den, but I don't know any of them how to drive it back." (с) Bismarck

The cleansing of the world from filth will occur precisely from the revival of Russia.
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Old 02-25-2022, 04:37 AM
 
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I will answer you with one quote:

"I know 100 ways to lure a Russian bear out of its den, but I don't know any of them how to drive it back." (с) Bismarck

The cleansing of the world from filth will occur precisely from the revival of Russia.
Putin IS the filth, have you not seen the worlds response to what he has done!? No of course you haven't because if you're Russian you don't live in a free Democratic society and you only get spoon fed what the dictator Putin wants you to be spoon fed because, like your people, your press isn't free but censored:-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_...ingements%20of

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...r-Ukraine.html

Russia is entering the international 'wilderness'
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Old 02-25-2022, 05:08 AM
 
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I also don't get the "denazification" of Ukraine part.
There is indeed some nazi group but the ukrainian president and half of the government is jew.
Since when did someone have to be an actual Nazi for the left to claim they were a Nazi?

It's your typical misinformation. Claim the adversary is a racist supremacist comitting genocide and that you're here to save the day.
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Old 02-25-2022, 05:09 AM
 
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Putin IS the filth, have you not seen the worlds response to what he has done!? No of course you haven't because if you're Russian you don't live in a free Democratic society and you only get spoon fed what the dictator Putin wants you to be spoon fed because, like your people, your press isn't free but censored:-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_...ingements%20of

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...r-Ukraine.html

Russia is entering the international 'wilderness'
You probably forgot, but I already told you I don't care about your links.. How many times have you posted them? Third or fourth? Aren't you tired? I'm not impressed. I believe my ears and my eyes, not some Wikipedia. I hope you don't think that Wiki is the ultimate truth? And if I had been fed, as you say, with a spoon, then I would not have been on this forum. Unlike you, I am looking for information from different sources.. and "with a spoon" and without a "spoon".. and then I try to skip through my own head.. and not like you.. they threw you a spoonful of sh^t, and you are happy, you swallow it without sniffing, and than lick your lips with a satisfied look, as if you had eaten enough honey..And you convince everyone later: Oh, how delicious ..
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Old 02-25-2022, 05:13 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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You probably forgot, but I already told you I don't care about your links.. How many times have you posted them? Third or fourth? Aren't you tired? I'm not impressed. I believe my ears and my eyes, not some Wikipedia. I hope you don't think that Wiki is the ultimate truth? And if I had been fed, as you say, with a spoon, then I would not have been on this forum. Unlike you, I am looking for information from different sources.. and "with a spoon" and without a "spoon".. and then I try to skip through my own head.. and not like you.. they threw you a spoonful of sh^t, and you are happy, you swallow it without sniffing, and than lick your lips with a satisfied look, as if you had eaten enough honey..And you convince everyone later: Oh, how delicious ..
No of course you don't! Tell me how much do you get paid?:-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia...%20of%20Russia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_Agency

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-ne...-news-n1239000

https://www.rferl.org/a/russian-trol.../31076160.html

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-43093390

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/29/t...-election.html

Unlike Russia the people in the west have been free for centuries, do you seriously think you can 'pull the wool over the eyes' of people who have a free press to feed them information?
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