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Old 04-03-2018, 02:22 PM
DKM
 
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In the meantime, the Skripal narrative is falling apart......

Omelette time for the British government....


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8286761.html
There is nothing falling apart. How could they definitively prove it, there is no way unless its directly traced. Putin would have never authorized this unless he could deflect blame, as he always does. Russia is blaming the victim (again) in their press and trying to say that the UK staged a chemical weapons attack on its own soil to boot out some worthless Russian diplomats. The reality is Russia is stirring up trouble like they have been for years. NOBODY believes Russia anymore, their conspiracy theories are ignored...
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Old 04-03-2018, 03:04 PM
 
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There is nothing falling apart. How could they definitively prove it, there is no way unless its directly traced. Putin would have never authorized this unless he could deflect blame, as he always does. Russia is blaming the victim (again) in their press and trying to say that the UK staged a chemical weapons attack on its own soil to boot out some worthless Russian diplomats. The reality is Russia is stirring up trouble like they have been for years. NOBODY believes Russia anymore, their conspiracy theories are ignored...

Oh yes the official narrative is falling apart...with European governments starting to questioning the sanctions.

You may be surprised at how many people on the street do not buy the official story....Russia isolation is western wishful thinking...the opposite is happening.
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Old 04-03-2018, 03:22 PM
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No, no European countries are questioning the sanctions over Russia invading Ukraine. This isn't related to Russia meddling in Europe. Russia's behavior will only drive Europe apart from Russia and unite them against it. Sort of like Ukraine. Aggression doesn't work...
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Old 04-03-2018, 03:55 PM
 
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No, no European countries are questioning the sanctions over Russia invading Ukraine. This isn't related to Russia meddling in Europe. Russia's behavior will only drive Europe apart from Russia and unite them against it. Sort of like Ukraine. Aggression doesn't work...

LOL


The Italian election winner parties leaders already stated that they will take down sanctions on Russia after forming a new government.

Germany just approved North Stream 2 Pipeline.

Sanctions so far are hot air.
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Old 04-03-2018, 04:04 PM
 
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I guess the Russian government ordered a general safety inspection of over 800 malls and shopping centers nationwide and over 2700 safety violations have been found - so far. I suspect there will be more to come. I don't think there will be any "vacations" granted when it comes to correcting them either.
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Old 04-03-2018, 04:08 PM
 
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There is nothing falling apart. How could they definitively prove it, there is no way unless its directly traced. Putin would have never authorized this unless he could deflect blame, as he always does. Russia is blaming the victim (again) in their press and trying to say that the UK staged a chemical weapons attack on its own soil to boot out some worthless Russian diplomats. The reality is Russia is stirring up trouble like they have been for years. NOBODY believes Russia anymore, their conspiracy theories are ignored...
Just look at some of the comments (the vast majority) on youtubes vidoes of the incident. The western MSM and governments have very little credibility anymore. A lot of videos have the comment sections deactivated because of the backlash.
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Old 04-03-2018, 05:01 PM
 
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Just look at some of the comments (the vast majority) on youtubes vidoes of the incident. The western MSM and governments have very little credibility anymore. A lot of videos have the comment sections deactivated because of the backlash.
I wouldn't use the Youtube comments section as a credible source either. Social media is often plagued by trigger happy posters who use it a platform to say vile things because they believe they are anonymous. On message boards like C-D you are likely to get more nuances and thoughtful input.
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Old 04-03-2018, 05:33 PM
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The Italian election winner parties leaders already stated that they will take down sanctions on Russia after forming a new government.
I have a bridge to sell you.

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Germany just approved North Stream 2 Pipeline.
Not part of sanctions, this is mostly corporate deal on both sides.


Latvia announced it is phasing out Russian language in its schools. Its part of making their nation more secure long term (Ukraine is the example). How many days until Russia blames the USA?
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Old 04-03-2018, 05:35 PM
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Just look at some of the comments (the vast majority) on youtubes vidoes of the incident. The western MSM and governments have very little credibility anymore. A lot of videos have the comment sections deactivated because of the backlash.
Yep, we are all relying on YouTube comments on the news for the truth now...now that the Russian trolls have cleaned up the grammar to 90% acceptable.
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Old 04-03-2018, 05:45 PM
 
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Youtube was just an example I put up. Look far and wide, blogs, MSM sites, local news sites you name it the feedback is pretty much hostile towards the whole circus.
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