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This is the construction of the capital of Kazakhstan - Alma-Ata in 1935. ( As you can see Russian engineers and workers are all over the place, side by side with the Kazakhs.)
And as you can see, a lot of Kazakhs of younger generation are already joining in - in education, in new jobs, in new opportunities - you name it.
( It' all as true as Stalin's purges and the rest - it's just one side of history is constantly regurgitated, while the other doesn't get any attention. But they BOTH are true.)
And this is Alma-Ata of the sixties; ( they discuss there among other things the protection of the city from avalanches and earthquakes.)
Russians did A lot of good for development of Central Asia and Caucasus, but all you can hear about is how they "suppressed poor Balts and massacred poor Ukrainians."
Sure but their oil production is mostly a result of partnering with Western oil majors for investment and technology. Soviets knew how to tap the easy stuff in Baku and western Siberia.
Its easy to point at any country and say look how far they've come in a 100 years thanks to X. Change and advancement was coming no matter who was in charge. Russia would not today still be a agrarian state if Stalin never took control, etc.
I keep seeing things out of the corner of my eye. Just a little here and a little there. I really think that Germany is getting sick and tired of the US along with many others.
One needs to consider what the Soviet Union poured into Eastern Europe also, Most of those countries (especially Poland) were all but leveled. Warsaw was wreckage.
Sure but their oil production is mostly a result of partnering with Western oil majors for investment and technology. Soviets knew how to tap the easy stuff in Baku and western Siberia.
"Although Kazakhstan became an oil producer in 1911, its production did not increase to a meaningful level until the 1960s and 1970s, when production plateaued at nearly 500,000 barrels a day , a pre-Soviet independence record production level.[/b] Since the mid-1990s and with the help of major international oil companies, Kazakhstan's production first exceeded 1 million barrels a day in 2003.<>"
So one more time; if it were not for Russians, Kazakhs would have remained your typical third world country, and there would have been no one to "partner with."
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Its easy to point at any country and say look how far they've come in a 100 years thanks to X. Change and advancement was coming no matter who was in charge.
...and since we are talking about Kazakhstan ( and the USSR) - a little tribute to Victor Tsoi, who died on August 15th, back in 1990. ( He played the leading role in the movie The Needle, produced by Kazakh New Wave Films.
Blood Type ( translation of the lyrics is on Youtube)
More news from one of the "stans," liberated from Russian oppression.
Unlike Kazakhstan, Tajikistan doesn't have any oil, so no Western corporations are lining up to build a new *Astana* there.
So something is taking place amid all this poverty and misery, to fill the void; namely - Islam.
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