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2 bombs went off in Kabul. 1 at an airport gate and one at a hotel. ISIS-K is claiming the laurels. Khorasant?
The one at the airport snuck up a drainage ditch and got into the crowd. Civvies, American soldiers and Taliban soldiers were killed.
They get their funding from ISIS in Iraq and Syria which is another way of saying the US, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, and down the list.
This is expected. Remember all the ISIS attacks in Europe in 2015 and 2016 after Russia entered the war in Syria. They're lashing back at the civilian population for the withdrawal of military support that was explicitly offered by Obama.
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As I have explained many times [3], in the days following the 9/11 attacks, the US Army published an article by Colonel Ralph Peters stating that the US no longer needed to win wars, but to organise instability in certain regions of the world, particularly in the ’broader Middle East’. He went on to say that states would have to be recomposed along ethnic lines, i.e. separating mixed peoples, and that this could only be done through ethnic cleansing and other crimes against humanity. He ended his presentation by assuring that the Pentagon could always delegate its powers to mercenaries to do the dirty work [4]. In the excitement of 9/11, no one picked up on this article openly claiming to be preparing for heinous crimes.
Five years later, Ralph Peters published the map that the Joint Chiefs of Staff were working on in 2001 [5]. A panic ensued among all the military leaderhip in the wider Middle East: no one was protected, not even the US allies. Various changes of alliance followed. But it was not until 2011 and the attack on Libya (then a US ally) that we saw what was happening.
Since then, we have seen that the war in Afghanistan, which was supposed to last until Osama bin Laden fled, has lasted for 20 years; that the war in Iraq, which was supposed to last until the fall of President Saddam Hussein, has lasted for 17 years; that the war in Libya, which was supposed to last until the fall of Muamar Gaddafi, has lasted for 10 years; that the war in Syria, which was supposed to last until the fall of President Bashar al-Assad, has lasted for 10 years. Moreover, we have seen Al Qaeda (historically a creation of the CIA) and Daesh (historically a creation of Ambassador John Negroponte) commit crimes against humanity all along the lines announced by Colonel Ralph Peters. And we know that these terrorist organisations are funded, armed and supervised by the British and the Americans.
Yes, the "endless war" declared by President George W. Bush is not about "fighting terrorism", but about using terrorism to "destabilise" an entire region. This was the title of Colonel Peters’ article in 2001: "Stability: America’s enemy".
They get their funding from ISIS in Iraq and Syria which is another way of saying the US, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, and down the list.
This is expected. Remember all the ISIS attacks in Europe in 2015 and 2016 after Russia entered the war in Syria. They're lashing back at the civilian population for the withdrawal of military support that was explicitly offered by Obama.
Oh well.
"Religion of peace" strikes again.
I am surprised it didn't happen there earlier, with all these crowds around, with so many people being *conveniently* gathered in one place.
It has nothing to do with religion. You aren't thinking things through. It's all about strategic positioning by warlords/politicians and the politics of power. Like the Ronin of medieval Japan. Samurai lords were not supposed to get their hands dirty but they had to fight one another. How did they do this without looking bad? Ronin. Samurai warriors posing as outlaws but serving their lords as clandestine hit men that attacked rival warlords in various ways. One warlord wanted to be bad he could do it and have plausible deniability.
It's as old as the human civilization.
The crowds is why the Taliban has been screaming so loudly for the US to hurry the hell up and not obstructing efforts to evacuate. It's looks like for the safety of all concerned they're going to have to do something or even more people are going to die. I hear 7 or more bombers have been intercepted with one taking out 4 or 5 Taliban soldiers when they got too close a few days ago. Some were shot dead. The key is they can't catch them all and more are on the way undoubtedly. The bomber got to the airport through a drainage ditch that everybody forgot was installed there when the US expanded the base. It was in Taliban turf but no one told them about it so they could guard it. Or so it's said.
The Taliban and US forces on the ground are working closely together and it seems to be working to some degree. 12 US soldiers died in the bomb blast with many more civvies and 7 or 8 Taliban soldiers.
As for the people around the airport they make their own choices. They know they're a target. The Taliban have said that the people need to get away from the airport and can leave at a later date if they want to. Propaganda turns them into sheep though and there are wolves among them
I don't think the west is near competent enough to pull off something like that. Not that it's a bad idea?
There have been several attributions of the strategy or philosophy. One was that Israel wanted to see the nearby sates broken up. Another is that it's incidental. There isn't near enough ground troops in the US/NATO or the UN to create an occupation force to control each country after it's been invaded by a US strike force. Then this paper by a US Lt. Col.
Afghanistan could be a trap for China is what's being inferred.
It has anything and everything to do with religion Scrat.
In this case - with Islam.
I suspect we were the only ones in Soviet schools that studied religion as part of the world history curriculum.
Back in the day religion ( or rather Church) was heavily involved in European politics as well, ( it was actually a defining factor in history of all European countries,) but with time the Christendom evolved and separated the two - the state and church.
But one shouldn't project the same thing on the Middle East ( or any Islamic countries.) Because the teaching of Islam ( unlike Christianity) combines religion and politics in one.
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You aren't thinking things through.
I rather have more info on hands.
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It's all about strategic positioning by warlords/politicians and the politics of power. Like the Ronin of medieval Japan. Samurai lords were not supposed to get their hands dirty but they had to fight one another. How did they do this without looking bad? Ronin. Samurai warriors posing as outlaws but serving their lords as clandestine hit men that attacked rival warlords in various ways. One warlord wanted to be bad he could do it and have plausible deniability.
Again - you are making wrong projections Scrat, because you are bringing the example of culturally different, unrelated part of the world.
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It's as old as the human civilization.
Again - "human civilizations" are very different.
Always have been.
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The crowds is why the Taliban has been screaming so loudly for the US to hurry the hell up and not obstructing efforts to evacuate.
Not only. There are couple more reasons for that.
Number one - the Taliban doesn't want the westerners to change their mind, and to bring the troops back.
And two - the Taliban sees how many people are running from the country ( educated people including,) and they want their potential slaves back.
After all, who is going to build that wonderful Islamic Emirate for them?
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It's looks like for the safety of all concerned they're going to have to do something or even more people are going to die. I hear 7 or more bombers have been intercepted with one taking out 4 or 5 Taliban soldiers when they got too close a few days ago. Some were shot dead. The key is they can't catch them all and more are on the way undoubtedly. The bomber got to the airport through a drainage ditch that everybody forgot was installed there when the US expanded the base. It was in Taliban turf but no one told them about it so they could guard it. Or so it's said.
The Taliban and US forces on the ground are working closely together and it seems to be working to some degree.
As the previous reports demonstrated - the US military and Taliban are working hand in hand.
Both are interested in establishing some order, and both are shooting at unruly crowd, and both are beating people up.
There are plenty of reports on it.
I see the American media is picking and choosing what they want to show and how, but Russian media dumps it all out.
It has anything and everything to do with religion Scrat.
In this case - with Islam.
Nope. I am talking about ultimate goals here. The ultimate goal for the elite is the acquisition and maintenance of power. Religion is simply one of the tools used to do it. It's one of many tools in the kit.
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Again - "human civilizations" are very different.
Always have been.
Outwardly, yes. The framework is always the same. We're all apes in the end.
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Not only. There are couple more reasons for that.
Number one - the Taliban doesn't want the westerners to change their mind, and to bring the troops back.
And two - the Taliban sees how many people are running from the country ( educated people including,) and they want their potential slaves back.
After all, who is going to build that wonderful Islamic Emirate for them?
I doubt a brain drain is going to hurt the country. I mean really, where do they have to go but up? Most of those "brains" fleeing the country is not what they need anyway. I seriously doubt those educated people are anywhere near what can be provided in the coming generations considering the quality educations you find in the west.
Make no mistake, it will take 60 years to bring Afghanistan to anything like what we know as civilization.
Nope. I am talking about ultimate goals here. The ultimate goal for the elite is the acquisition and maintenance of power. Religion is simply one of the tools used to do it. It's one of many tools in the kit.
Without bringing in Al Qaeda into Bosnia, Herzegovena, Syria, Iraq, and other countries, there wouldn't have been the wars. They engaged in the same types of atrocities and war crimes as the Serbs, and we know about the atrocities in the other wars. They engage in military psychological operations for the West. They stage hit-and-run attacks at the government and invite reprisals against the Muslim population in order to stoke a sectarian war. During the Iraq war, NATO special forces were posing as Al Qaeda and planting IEDs in the Shia cities to do just that (there was a famous case with the SAS special forces in Basra).
Taliban has all the names of the Khost Protection Force death squads and the employees of the National Directorate for Security.
I think a lot of them were already bused out as there was the hoopla about the names leaving the Kabul airport. They did the same in Aleppo and Douma in Syria when Al Qaeda and the embedded foreign intelligence officers were allowed out.
Russian News One channel interviews someone from the Russian Jewry Immigration in the US ( the person is the Art Director, ( has his own business, publicist, involved in politics and so on.)
From 7:45;
- Thanks for joining us, Leon...So from what we understand, you are closer to Trump supporters...
-Yes, let's put it this way.
-So what can you tell us about what Biden says. In a way he is correct, when he is pointing at the fact that it was Trump who initiated this quick withdrawal from Afghanistan..
- You can withdraw while being prepared for that. We know what plan should exist for that and what steps need to be taken. That's one version, and then of course it's possible simply to run away.
You know, American problem for now is that people that came to power are the ideologists.
Biden who is put there is a puppet, he is a cover-up. His mental state and the rest... I am not a doctor to make a diagnoses, but it's obvious looking at him that he can't answer questions, that he thinks slowly and so on.
So there is a group of people that came to power with the help of manipulations. All these people that are in charge of our politics are the ideologists, and we see now when the ideologists, not professionals are making decisions instead of the professionals, and tell them ( professionals) what to do and how to do it.
For example Biden is trying to convince us that he couldn't even imagine... that he was told that the war with Taliban and that army that we supplied with weapons will take at least few months. But it took only five days.
But now, as it turns out, the CIA, the Army, the intelligence were sending the reports to their superiors for the last six months, stating "listen up guys, that Afghan army that we armed, exists on the paper only, and it will dissipate as soon as. That the Taliban is much stronger, and we should start our exit the way Trump planned it, by May 1, while all these Taliban fighters were still sitting in their auls ( in provinces, ) since their wars are seasonal.
Yet people in charge were waiting till they moved around and got ready and stepped on the "path of war," as they always did since Alexander Makedonsly times.
That's first.
And second - what kind of nonsense it is, to evacuate your army before your civilians and military equipment..
So everything we see is happening is happening because the orders were not coming from the military professionals, but the ideologists, whose main interest was "how to win the next elections."
-So what you are saying is that the decisions were made not based on professional approach, but rather with the politics in mind first and utmost?
-Yes. The thing is, every man elected as president can't be specialist in everything. So he has to liten to all his advisors , what the specialist are saying here and there, he has to listen to their arguments, and then he has to make a decision.
But in this case a group of the ideologists were simply making decisions, that were not based on any data coming from the war field.
This is more on this man ( I see him for the first time, but since it's "Russia" thread, I might put it here as well, since it addresses the Russian Jewish immigration in US.)
Nope. I am talking about ultimate goals here. The ultimate goal for the elite is the acquisition and maintenance of power. Religion is simply one of the tools used to do it. It's one of many tools in the kit.
What "elite"?
What "elite" exactly are you talking about?
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Outwardly, yes. The framework is always the same. We're all apes in the end.
No we are not the "apes," and we are all different - our cultures, our historic backgrounds and so on.
At least where the "Old World" is concerned.
But from the "New World" point of view, all this of course is cancelled out ( all the differences,) and repackaged.
So things of course are seeing differently from the US, but it's precisely this "repackaging" and dismissal of the fine details of the old world that brings Americans to such failures in the Middle East, one after another.
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I doubt a brain drain is going to hurt the country. I mean really, where do they have to go but up? Most of those "brains" fleeing the country is not what they need anyway. I seriously doubt those educated people are anywhere near what can be provided in the coming generations considering the quality educations you find in the west.
Make no mistake, it will take 60 years to bring Afghanistan to anything like what we know as civilization.
Again - what "civilization" are we talking about?
Because "civilizations" are very different, as I already pointed out.
The Taliban wants its model to be established within the framework of Islamic civilization.
Which is quite different from the Western one, always has been.
Talibs are not looking at the US ( or Germany) as their blueprint, but they look rather at Saudi Arabia/Iran or Pakistan.
And even from this point of view Taliban 0.2. already differs from the Taliban 01.
Russians are pointing out that these latest Talibs are already successfully operating the American Black Hawk helicopters (generously provided for them by you know who. )
They are aware that they need the economy ( and investments) to run their state.
(They are looking at the Chinese for that, obviously.)
They understand the politics/interests of the near-by countries, that they are trying to pacify/reassure (at least for now.)
And with all that of course they understand that they need to retain as much educated/professional people as possible.
I am talking about their "management" of course - people that are claiming to be in charge.
As for the "field commanders" and those in the regions - that's the whole different story.
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