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This is true. You need to pay for a Sky TV/Virgin TV subscription to get things like Fox here. American shows are popular, but they are not as popular as British shows.
Plus, in the top 10 songs on the charts right now.. artists are:
Jess Glynne, British
Ed Sheeran, British
James Bay, British
Years and Years, British
Mark Ronson, British
Kanye West/Rihanna/Paul McCartney, American/British
Maroon 5, American
Hozier, Irish
Ellie Goulding, British
Sia, Australian
I haven't read the whole thread so don't know if this has been mentioned already, but for the first time ever all of the top ten biggest selling albums in the UK last year were domestic, so the idea that we are a little America or in the process of becoming one just because we speak the same language doesn't really ring true.
Most popular music in all EU countries is mostly local, people that say otherwise probably only visited mcdonadls.
That's not true for all European countries, a decent amount of music still comes from the USA and from other European countries (especially the UK), your country seems more of an exception to the rule, music is probably the field where there's more external influence. What i said is true especially when it comes to singles
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I wouldn't say that's true. In many northern and north-central EU countries the most popular music tends to be in English. The place of local music varies from small to medium in many countries.
Not just in Northern Europe, for example of the 20 most sold singles in Italy last year 19 were in English and the other one was in Spanish. The truth though is that many of those artists came from other European countries, they choose English over their local language because it allows them to reach a wider crowd.
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This is true. You need to pay for a Sky TV/Virgin TV subscription to get things like Fox here. American shows are popular, but they are not as popular as British shows.
Plus, in the top 10 songs on the charts right now.. artists are:
Jess Glynne, British
Ed Sheeran, British
James Bay, British
Years and Years, British
Mark Ronson, British
Kanye West/Rihanna/Paul McCartney, American/British
Maroon 5, American
Hozier, Irish
Ellie Goulding, British
Sia, Australian
The same is true here, to have access to Fox you need to subscribe to a pay tv (Sky), the amount of American shows on public tv is quite low and few of them are actually successful.
Things sadly change when it comes to music (especially singles), here are the artists in the top 10 singles chart:
Ellie Goulding (Briitsh)
Omi (Jamaican)
Mark Ronson (British)
Rihanna, Kanye and Paul McCartney (American/British)
Hozier (Irish)
Maroon 5 (American)
Marco Mengoni (Italian)
Lorenzo Fragola (Italian)
Ed Sheeran (British)
James Bay (British)
Just noticed that British artists kinda dominate the list
I think what has saved the vibrant domestic culture here is that we are a small and unique one. People very much enjoy domestic music, movies and tv-series, just because it's domestic and we can relate to them. And this is the situation in all European countries, in some countries larger, in some countries smaller. Sure people watch US tv-series, movies and listen to music, but I can't figure out one country where those have replaced the domestic culture or the culture of their neighbours. Not even in countries where the proficiency of the English language are the highest, US culture hasn't replaced the indigenous. MTV pretty much died out when they stopped showing music videos. Who want to watch some reality show about spoiled brats in LA? Nobody.
Some Americans, and sadly a minority of English, listen, watch and read 99% domestic culture, they might be under the impression of that nothing else exists in the world. They think we listen to Kanye West, watch Steven Colbert and flip burgers at barbecues, as themselves are not exposed to anything else. For example, the Danish crime thriller Forbrydelsen, which is a masterpiece, couldn't be shown on US tv. It had to be remade to an American version. "Oh, what, multiple parties, immigrants, moving to Sweden? The American public won't accept it. Let's replace it with moving to LA, some Muslims, Indjun casinos and some gangsters".
Well, whatever, the end result was quite good, but suddenly The Killing became an American series, and probably 90% don't even know the origins were Danish. So, another piece of European culture just erased from American eyes.
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Scandinavian crime dramas aren't remade here. I remember watching Forbrydelsen and it had subtitles but nothing else. I actually like it a lot, and just stumbled across it. The only thing that changed here was that it was called 'The Killing'. Others like Wallander and The Bridge were successful here too, and were not remade, just subbed.
Foreign TV shows and music obviously have a better chance of being successful here if it's in English, since most of us can't speak any other language. Robyn, from Sweden, is hugely successful, but she sings in English. Sweden has given us a lot of successful bands and artists over the years.
The only thing that saves us from being dominated by foreign music is that the British music industry is so successful anyway, and frequently infiltrates other countries.
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There are quite a few popular french movies that were actually adapted for the american market and remade there because Hollywood thought nobody would go and watch a french film.
For instance "True Lies" with Schwarzenneger and JL Curtis was a french film at first, and the same goes for "three men and a baby", "blame it on rio", "the man with one red shoe", "The woman in red", and countless others.
There are quite a few popular french movies that were actually adapted for the american market and remade there because Hollywood thought nobody would go and watch a french film.
For instance "True Lies" with Schwarzenneger and JL Curtis was a french film at first, and the same goes for "three men and a baby", "blame it on rio", "the man with one red shoe", "The woman in red", and countless others.
The US financed the European economy though the Marshall plan (this is how Europe got out of poverty)
I think Europe tries to be like the US a lot, especially northern Europeans and Germans.
I have a lot of respect and admiration for american culture but I don't think europeans are the same thing, really.
I believe the impression that northern europeans are more similar to americans is because they are small countries in terms of population and a less strong / visible culture than the big central / southern European countries like Spain, Italy, France, or even the UK.
I believe Germany is pretty american in some ways, but that's mainly due to the very weak nationalism there which has been going on since WWII.
I haven't read the whole thread so don't know if this has been mentioned already, but for the first time ever all of the top ten biggest selling albums in the UK last year were domestic, so the idea that we are a little America or in the process of becoming one just because we speak the same language doesn't really ring true.
Just the same thing in Spain, about 90 percent were local hits. Some were produced in the US but in Spanish, for example, Iglesias, Stefan, Pitbull, etc. French and Italians are similar, in Portugal most music is Portuguese or Brazilian.
Scandinavian crime dramas aren't remade here. I remember watching Forbrydelsen and it had subtitles but nothing else. I actually like it a lot, and just stumbled across it. The only thing that changed here was that it was called 'The Killing'. Others like Wallander and The Bridge were successful here too, and were not remade, just subbed.
Foreign TV shows and music obviously have a better chance of being successful here if it's in English, since most of us can't speak any other language. Robyn, from Sweden, is hugely successful, but she sings in English. Sweden has given us a lot of successful bands and artists over the years.
Yeah, I know. I was only talking about the US.
The immense British music scene obviously just wipes out much of the competition. I think it's quite natural.
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I believe the impression that northern europeans are more similar to americans is because they are small countries in terms of population and a less strong / visible culture than the big central / southern European countries like Spain, Italy, France, or even the UK.
Define 'American' and 'similar', and we'll continue from there. Why would small mean less strong? You don't think Serbia has a visible culture because it's small? Have you read any of my posts in this thread?
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Last week's single chart here:
Major Lazer (USA)
Kygo (Norway)
Deorro & Chris Brown (USA)
Ellie Goulding (UK)
Martin Tungevaag (Norway)
Alfons (Sweden)
Sanni (Finland)
Skrillex & Diplo (USA)
Zedd (USA)
Carly Rae Jepsen (Canada)
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