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Even the US, often held up as a superstate on paper is really only slighly more unified, in practice, as the current organizational structure of the EU, and the US is a country with a common founding myth and defacto common language, i.e. The United States is a far more fragile union than many people realize and it has been trending to more regional disharmony and fractured identity for over a century.
I agree that ultra-nationalism is problematic, and OPs contention that members of a European superstate could maintain a 'lighthearted national pride' is amusingly naive. For a European superstate to succeed, all potentially divisive national characteristics including language would have to be actively supressed of not prohibited to maintain unity.
I do think that there can be agreements and unions between sovereign nations, but superstates have too much potential for abuse and oppression of the individual, both individual nation/ethnicity and individual citizen.
It's not naïve for me to believe that Europeans could fix all their disagreements and problems by letting bygones be bygones.
Anyways if so many Europeans on this thread are against change then they can just continue dragging their continent into irrelevance, not what I suggested but that appears to be what they want.
I don't see how Europe could become one country while giving independence to regions like Catalonia, Basque Country, Scotland , Flemish Country etc and having pushed for the separation of Slowakia and the Czech republic, created new states like Slovenia and Croantia and the Baltic states. And if ever Europe became one state, what would happen of the EU countries that are not in the Eurozone like Britain or Denmark? and what would happen of dependencies of EU countries that are not in the EU like the Channel islands, Isle of Man, the Faeroer, Greenland? and what about the French, Dutch and British overseas territories ? (some are EU, some , again, not)?what an unholy mess...
also very stupid. this idea of free movement between member states is what has led to the migrant crisis(I refuse to call them refugees because most of them obviously aren't), until they sort out the crisis you can forget about any "united states of Europe", which incidentally is the very reason we fought a world war to stop one country lording it over another, the same country that is now running Europe.
also very stupid. this idea of free movement between member states is what has led to the migrant crisis(I refuse to call them refugees because most of them obviously aren't), until they sort out the crisis you can forget about any "united states of Europe", which incidentally is the very reason we fought a world war to stop one country lording it over another, the same country that is now running Europe.
No, what has lead to those migrants pouring into Europe is not the free movement of people but the unwillingness/incompetentness of southern Europeans to guard they EU border and the EU legislation.
No, what has lead to those migrants pouring into Europe is not the free movement of people but the unwillingness/incompetentness of southern Europeans to guard they EU border and the EU legislation.
once the migrants leave Asia or Africa and set sail across the Med, what would you have the Europeans do? sink the boats? they aren't going to turn back, once they are on European soil the "human rights act" kicks in.
Germany and especially Mrs Merkel are responsible for the current wave of migrants by opening the doors to unlimited immigration, a bit like Labour and Tony Blair did here when he was P.M., seems they never learn.
Very incompetent indeed. We should throw these into the sea and wait for the refugees to get tangled as they swim into Greece.
It works with fishes so...
Very incompetent indeed. We should throw these into the sea and wait for the refugees to get tangled as they swim into Greece.
It works with fishes so...
they don't swim their on boats...well originally they are, some of them end up swimming it has to be said when the boats sink cos there overloaded.
they don't swim their on boats...well originally they are, some of them end up swimming it has to be said when the boats sink cos there overloaded.
**** you mean the don't come swimming aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaall the way through?...
And here I was, suspecting the refugees were mermaids... I wanted them to bite my neck so I, too, could become a mermaid.
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Yeah don't worry Bigpaul, I read the news too (SHOCKING I KNOW!). Some days ago people from Spain were arrested for helping them out of one of those boats.
I was joking because KuuKulgur is rather absurd.
why do some many regions in Europe want to break up into smaller parts, do they have too thick heads to think logically
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