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You can count me in that group. What have I been missing?
Much of Uptown is urban by US standards, and even neighborhoods like Hollygrove which don't have many urban amenities still have small historic homes on small lots, connected to the rest of the city grid.
Nearby Oak St is on the border the city limits far from downtown, I've seen this part of the city called suburban many times.
8341 Oak St https://maps.app.goo.gl/9ErKgu2naY3giFHDA
Lakeview is considered a suburban neighborhood in New Orleans but Harrison Blvd is a retail corridor that most suburban neighborhoods lack in the sunbelt.
872 Harrison Ave https://maps.app.goo.gl/XrmHiDMbyuqEpeam9
And across the river in Algiers where most tourists don't get to.
501 Pelican Ave https://maps.app.goo.gl/ALYFVNRqrFC7QYcG9
This is a neighborhood bar on a normal street corner in Bayou St. John.
3198 St Philip St https://maps.app.goo.gl/T9P9kH4tLCqXZgBU8
Also, the rest of the development in nearby suburbs are all built on a grid, with virtually no McMansion neighborhoods, that style of development is only seen in large numbers on the northshore, which pales in comparison as far as population to the southshore, the vast majority of New Orleans metro area people don't live in urban neighborhoods but they do live in pre WWII neighborhoods.
Richmond. Most of the city is as or more urban as most large Midwest and Western cities, and it's definitely among the most urban southern cities. The central city of Richmond (north of the James River) is basically Syracuse, it would fit well in Upstate NY or anywhere in the Northeast...
I think people get confused. Cleveland might have an underrated neighborhood or two but broadly its reputation comes from the fact there are like 6 blocks of nice urbanism on its entire east side.
Philly is similar. It has some really nice neighborhoods but Rittenhouse Sq is very much not representative of Philly, like at all.
I’d say people in “underrated” cities just get upset people flatten their city to its average neighborhood. Philly, Chicago, Cleveland, St Louis have a massive gap between their average neighborhood and their best neighborhoods. People only visit the latter so they come out of a visit believing the city is better than it is.
Overrated cities tend to be ones that really don’t have terrible neighborhoods dragging down their reputation. Boston, SF, Minneapolis etc. so as a result when their central 4 sq miles don’t blow away the central 4 sq miles of Philly or Whatever people say they’re overrated
But cities aren’t 4 sq miles.
Baltimore may be the one exception because Downtown Baltimore stinks. It does not hide its blemishes at all so I think it may be a bit underrated. Because statistically it’s pretty similar to Philly but doesn’t have bear the reputation of Philly
Philly, Chicago, Cleveland, St Louis have a massive gap between their average neighborhood and their best neighborhoods. People only visit the latter so they come out of a visit believing the city is better than it is.
You're kidding, right? Literally every city has a massive gap between its "best" and "average" neighborhoods.
Do you think Back Bay or Roxbury are remotely similar? The Upper East Side and Queens? Georgetown and Brookland?
There's a massive range everywhere, because America has always been the land of "haves" and "have nots." There's no exception anywhere.
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