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07-11-2009, 11:47 AM
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Location: A Land Not So Far Away
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Originally Posted by MimzyMusic
I've always been bothered with the term Midwest. It's not West and it's hardly even mid. Look at the map. Those are eastern states!
How about "Inland Northeast", or "Crossroads", or "Great Lakes States"?
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07-12-2009, 01:28 AM
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Location: Illinois
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I think states east of the Mississippi River deserve to have a name changed. I always considered any state touching the great lakes to be a Great Lake State anyways. I mean Illinois, Indiana and Ohio have more in common the Dakotas or something. imo
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07-12-2009, 12:01 PM
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Location: St. Louis, MO
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The Midwest by historic definition is a perfect name for this region. Back when the region was first founded, states in the Midwest region like Missouri, Iowa, Illinois, Michigan, Indiana, and Ohio were "The West." The Great Plains region made this region the Midwest. For all intents and purposes, this region is halfway in between the east and west. The only other name I could think of for the Midwest is The North Central, since it's halfway in between the Northeast and Northwest.
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07-12-2009, 12:02 PM
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Location: St. Louis, MO
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Originally Posted by ABiologyTeacher
I think states east of the Mississippi River deserve to have a name changed. I always considered any state touching the great lakes to be a Great Lake State anyways. I mean Illinois, Indiana and Ohio have more in common the Dakotas or something. imo
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The only problem with that is that New York and Pennsylvania do not share the same culture as the other Great Lakes states. |
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07-12-2009, 12:57 PM
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Location: Floyd County, IN
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Originally Posted by ajf131
The Midwest by historic definition is a perfect name for this region. Back when the region was first founded, states in the Midwest region like Missouri, Iowa, Illinois, Michigan, Indiana, and Ohio were "The West." The Great Plains region made this region the Midwest. For all intents and purposes, this region is halfway in between the east and west. The only other name I could think of for the Midwest is The North Central, since it's halfway in between the Northeast and Northwest.
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The High Plains region is definitely the "West." I know many people out there that despise "Easterners." The High Plains region has nothing at all in common with the agricultural Midwest core. |
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07-12-2009, 01:11 PM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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There are people in Illinois who hate "easterners". (I used to live there.) The midwest is a large area. There are subregions, just as in other parts of the country.
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07-12-2009, 08:27 PM
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Location: Lower East Side, Milwaukee, WI
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Originally Posted by ajf131
The only problem with that is that New York and Pennsylvania do not share the same culture as the other Great Lakes states.
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How do you know, don't you live in St. Louis? Michigan and Ohio have a lot more in common with Upstate NY and Western PA than they do with the Dakotas, Nebraska, Kansas, etc. |
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07-12-2009, 09:58 PM
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Location: Chicago
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How do you know he hasn't been to those places many of times though?
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07-13-2009, 01:43 AM
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Location: Lower East Side, Milwaukee, WI
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Originally Posted by Go Ne
How do you know he hasn't been to those places many of times though?
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ajf131 is the same person who believes that St. Louis is part of the Rust Belt.
Unlike St. Louis, Western Pennsylvania and Upstate New York are very much a part of the Rust Belt and therefore share many of the same characteristics as Upper Midwestern cities like Milwaukee, Chicago, Detroit, and Cleveland. Both regions have large ethnic European communities, large Catholic majorities, large African American populations, lots of heavy industry related to manufacturing and shipping, as well as other qualities such as being located on the Great Lakes. |
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07-13-2009, 10:44 AM
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Location: Floyd County, IN
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Originally Posted by jjacobeclark
ajf131 is the same person who believes that St. Louis is part of the Rust Belt.
Unlike St. Louis, Western Pennsylvania and Upstate New York are very much a part of the Rust Belt and therefore share many of the same characteristics as Upper Midwestern cities like Milwaukee, Chicago, Detroit, and Cleveland. Both regions have large ethnic European communities, large Catholic majorities, large African American populations, lots of heavy industry related to manufacturing and shipping, as well as other qualities such as being located on the Great Lakes.
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I agree. Some of the cities that share some similarities to cities in the Great Lakes Region of the Midwest in PA and NY include: Erie, Buffalo, Rochester, Meadville, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Youngstown, etc. |
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