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Detroit's inner city relevance has been declining. The area still holds a sizable amount of Fortune 500 companies and is VERY relevant. To dismiss it's relevancy isn't smart.
To say it's relevance is anything but in decline isn't smart. (which is what I said)
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Being from Iowa has everything to do with knowing what a major city is. What if he's never left the state of Iowa in his entire life? Would you still trust his opinion on what constitutes a major city? Ronnie was trying to say that Milwaukee was no more of a major city than Omaha, and I strongly disagree with that statement. For one thing, Milwaukee has more than double the population in its metro than Omaha.[/QUOTE]
I seriously doubt that "Ronnie" has never been outside of Iowa. For one thing, midwesterners love to travel.
I haven't been to Mwke in a long time, but Omaha is a very vibrant city with a lot going for it. Milwaukee seems to be in a similar sort of decline as Detroit, with the loss of manufacturing. I was just in Omaha for the 4th of July.
I seriously doubt that "Ronnie" has never been outside of Iowa. For one thing, midwesterners love to travel.
I haven't been to Mwke in a long time, but Omaha is a very vibrant city with a lot going for it. Milwaukee seems to be in a similar sort of decline as Detroit, with the loss of manufacturing. I was just in Omaha for the 4th of July.
I no longer have any respect for your opinions, as you just said Omaha is vibrant and Milwaukee is in decline. What could possibly be "vibrant" about Omaha, the big casino they have right downtown? Back in 2003, I spent damn near 6 hours in Downtown Omaha for a layover while riding the Greyhound. It was the most boring downtown I had ever seen in my entire life. It was a Saturday afternoon and there wasn't a single person walking around in the downtown area. Most of the stores looked abandoned and there was nothing as far as entertainment was concerned.
Milwaukee has been adding population to its city-proper for the last decade while all of the other cities in the Rust Belt, as well as Chicago and Minneapolis, have lost population from their city-proper to the suburbs. Milwaukee is still very much a manufacturing town, it's home to several Fortune 1000 Companies like Johnson Controls, Harley-Davidson, Rockwell Automation, Briggs & Stratton, and GE Healthcare Systems. We're not doing nearly as bad as Detroit, Cleveland, or Pittsburgh are.
Population of Milwaukee
2000: 596,974
2008: 604,477
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I doubt you ever did respect my opinions, as you railed against Denver on the Denver forum, and still do occasionally.
I don't know where the h*** you were in "downtown" Omaha on a Saturday afternoon where it was dead. Did you go to the Old Market? The last time I was there on a Saturday, it was packed with people. (Not the 4th of July, but a different Saturday)
There is no casino in downtown Omaha. There is a casino on a riverboat across the river in Council Bluffs, Iowa. Maybe you just thought you were in Omaha?
I no longer have any respect for your opinions, as you just said Omaha is vibrant and Milwaukee is in decline. What could possibly be "vibrant" about Omaha, the big casino they have right downtown? Back in 2003, I spent damn near 6 hours in Downtown Omaha for a layover while riding the Greyhound. It was the most boring downtown I had ever seen in my entire life. It was a Saturday afternoon and there wasn't a single person walking around in the downtown area. Most of the stores looked abandoned and there was nothing as far as entertainment was concerned.
Milwaukee has been adding population to its city-proper for the last decade while all of the other cities in the Rust Belt, as well as Chicago and Minneapolis, have lost population from their city-proper to the suburbs. Milwaukee is still very much a manufacturing town, it's home to several Fortune 1000 Companies like Johnson Controls, Harley-Davidson, Rockwell Automation, Briggs & Stratton, and GE Healthcare Systems. We're not doing nearly as bad as Dteroit, Cleveland, or Pittsburgh are.
Population of Milwaukee
2000: 596,974
2008: 604,477
Wow, what progress in 8 years! Congrats!
I'm guessing you may have been in Omaha, Georgia, or maybe Omaha, Texas.
I can assure you, there is no and has never been a casino in downtown Omaha. In fact, there is not a single casino in the entire state of Nebraska. I think you were in Texas. You may want to get your compass calibrated Mr. Greyhound explorer. lol
I doubt you ever did respect my opinions, as you railed against Denver on the Denver forum, and still do occasionally.
I don't know where the h*** you were in "downtown" Omaha on a Saturday afternoon where it was dead. Did you go to the Old Market? The last time I was there on a Saturday, it was packed with people. (Not the 4th of July, but a different Saturday)
There is no casino in downtown Omaha. There is a casino on a riverboat across the river in Council Bluffs, Iowa. Maybe you just thought you were in Omaha?
Whatever, so the casino isn't actually in the downtown, but you can definitely see it from there. Harrah's I believe it's called. I just looked at a Yahoo! Map and the Greyhound station is in the Old Market neighborhood, which is basically the entire downtown from the looks of it. I don't know what to tell you, other than that's the experience I had there.
Old Market Omaha – Omaha’s Arts and Entertainment District
Perhaps it has changed a lot in 6 years, but I sorta doubt it. I just checked out the website for Old Market and I must say I'm not very impressed. It seems pretty run-of-the-mill to me as far as shops and restaurants. Appleton, Wisconsin (population 73,000), where I grew up, probably has more going on in its downtown at any given moment than Omaha. I clicked on the Dance Club link under the Night Life heading and there isn't a single night club in Downtown Omaha. How vibrant.
Whatever, so the casino isn't actually in the downtown, but you can definitely see it from there. Harrah's I believe it's called. I just looked at a Yahoo! Map and the Greyhound station is in the Old Market neighborhood, which is basically the entire downtown from the looks of it. I don't know what to tell you, other than that's the experience I had there.
Old Market Omaha – Omaha’s Arts and Entertainment District
Perhaps it has changed a lot in 6 years, but I sorta doubt it. I just checked out the website for Old Market and I must say I'm not very impressed. It seems pretty run-of-the-mill to me as far as shops and restaurants. Appleton, Wisconsin (population 73,000), where I grew up, probably has more going on in its downtown at any given moment than Omaha. I clicked on the Dance Club link under the Night Life heading and there isn't a single night club in Downtown Omaha. How vibrant.
All of our toy stores, day cares, and playgrounds are out west. No wonder you were bored.
Years ago, before the demise of the Soviet Union, there was a mini-series about the US being occupied by Warsaw Pact forces and losing most of its independence. The Soviets decided that the only way they would end the occupation was by breaking the country up into smaller regional states that wouldn't be able to threaten USSR hegemony in the future. The Midwest part of the US became "Heartland". A possible name for you guys?
Years ago, before the demise of the Soviet Union, there was a mini-series about the US being occupied by Warsaw Pact forces and losing most of its independence. The Soviets decided that the only way they would end the occupation was by breaking the country up into smaller regional states that wouldn't be able to threaten USSR hegemony in the future. The Midwest part of the US became "Heartland". A possible name for you guys?
Where have you been doctorjef? "Heartland" is the most overused word in the midwest. Illinois is supposed to be the "Heartland of America". (I lived there for 7 years, hardly a day went by when there wasn't some reference to that.) There is a "Heartland Park" in downtown Omaha. The writers of that show didn't make up that word, they just "borrowed" it from all the midwest tourism guides.
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