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Race was created by natural selection, a process of biology.
Race existed prior to societies.
There is no such thing as "race" the concept of "race" only exists to separate humans into discrete groups according to superficial physical features.
Reading about anthropology and genetics should clear up any abnormal beliefs a person has about the outmoded concept of "race".
There is no such thing as a "race". There is only one race of humans on earth. Homo Sapiens.
The differences between people are a direct result of man's migration out of Africa to populate the planet. Distinct differences in skin color, hair texture, limb length result from years of adaptation to climate and sunlight exposure. Genes favor one environment or another FOR THE SURVIVAL OF THE ORGANISM and change by mutation or insertion and are passed down to future generations. That's the only difference between someone who comes from Siberia, Sri Lanka, or Senegal or any other point on the planet.
These changes originally happened very very slowly over tens of thousands of years when humans lived in isolated groups, these changes have been accelerated by genetic drift in the distant past (30000+ years ago) and today human genetic information travels much faster in modern times because of transportation like international jet travel and modern immigration.
When people stop putting so much importance on something that NOBODY had any control over before they were born to be here on planet earth, we could all actually get on with the more important things in life such as solving problems that affect ALL HUMANS on the planet. Infant mortality, disease, hunger, political strife, enslavement, human trafficking, female oppression, etc...
YOU DIDN'T SELECT YOUR PARENTS, THE NATION YOU WERE BORN IN - EVEN IF YOUR PARENTS MADE THAT EFFORT, OR THE ETHNICITY YOU WERE BORN TO SO WHY MAKE AN ISSUE OF IT AT ALL?
The subject of "race" has been beaten to a pulp and whenever I see a thread I feel compelled to point out how ridiculous this subject is.
If someone who is black wants to straighten their hair, it is their personal preference to do so. If that dark skinned person wants to lighten their skin it's their body to do so. If someone who has white skin wants to use a fake tanner, bake their skin in the sun, inject their lips until they're bee-stung it's their right to do so. If there's someone who is Asian has eye surgery or nose surgery that's their business to do so. It doesn't affect YOUR LIFE one way or the other. It's not your business, it's not your life, mind your own business.
Actually, the true minority on the planet are Caucasoids. Thats why they are freakin out and producing so many WMD. They would be happier if people of any other color were wiped out.
Thay like others don't yet realize we are ONE species HUMAN.
There is no such thing as "race" the concept of "race" only exists to separate humans into discrete groups according to superficial physical features.
Reading about anthropology and genetics should clear up any abnormal beliefs a person has about the outmoded concept of "race".
There is no such thing as a "race". There is only one race of humans on earth. Homo Sapiens.
The differences between people are a direct result of man's migration out of Africa to populate the planet. Distinct differences in skin color, hair texture, limb length result from years of adaptation to climate and sunlight exposure. Genes favor one environment or another FOR THE SURVIVAL OF THE ORGANISM and change by mutation or insertion and are passed down to future generations. That's the only difference between someone who comes from Siberia, Sri Lanka, or Senegal or any other point on the planet.
These changes originally happened very very slowly over tens of thousands of years when humans lived in isolated groups, these changes have been accelerated by genetic drift in the distant past (30000+ years ago) and today human genetic information travels much faster in modern times because of transportation like international jet travel and modern immigration.
When people stop putting so much importance on something that NOBODY had any control over before they were born to be here on planet earth (YOU DIDN'T SELECT YOUR PARENTS, THE NATION YOU WERE BORN IN - EVEN IF YOUR PARENTS MADE THAT EFFORT, OR THE ETHNICITY YOU WERE BORN TO SO WHY MAKE AN ISSUE OF IT AT ALL), we could all actually get on with the more important things in life such as solving problems that affect ALL HUMANS on the planet. Infant mortality, disease, hunger, political strife, enslavement, human trafficking, female oppression, etc...
The subject of "race" has been beaten to a pulp and whenever I see a thread I feel compelled to point out how ridiculous this subject is.
If someone who is black wants to straighten their hair, it is their personal preference to do so. If that dark skinned person wants to lighten their skin it's their body to do so. If someone who has white skin wants to use a fake tanner, bake their skin in the sun, inject their lips until they're bee-stung it's their right to do so. If there's someone who is Asian has eye surgery or nose surgery that's their business to do so. It doesn't affect YOUR LIFE one way or the other. It's not your business, it's not your life, mind your own business.
The differences between people are a direct result of man's migration out of Africa to populate the planet. Distinct differences in skin color, hair texture, limb length result from years of adaptation to climate and sunlight exposure. Genes favor one environment or another FOR THE SURVIVAL OF THE ORGANISM and change by mutation or insertion and are passed down to future generations. That's the only difference between someone who comes from Siberia, Sri Lanka, or Senegal or any other point on the planet.
These changes originally happened very very slowly over tens of thousands of years when humans lived in isolated groups, these changes have been accelerated by genetic drift in the distant past (30000+ years ago) and today human genetic information travels much faster in modern times because of transportation like international jet travel and modern immigration.
So then you agree with me; you simply expanded upon my point, which is that race (or as you call it, "differences between people") is a product of natural selection.
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When people stop putting so much importance on something that NOBODY had any control over before they were born to be here on planet earth, we could all actually get on with the more important things in life such as solving problems that affect ALL HUMANS on the planet. Infant mortality, disease, hunger, political strife, enslavement, human trafficking, female oppression, etc...
YOU DIDN'T SELECT YOUR PARENTS, THE NATION YOU WERE BORN IN - EVEN IF YOUR PARENTS MADE THAT EFFORT, OR THE ETHNICITY YOU WERE BORN TO SO WHY MAKE AN ISSUE OF IT AT ALL?
The subject of "race" has been beaten to a pulp and whenever I see a thread I feel compelled to point out how ridiculous this subject is.
Did you have something to contribute to the topic?
I think it had something to do with black Americans adopting traditionally white culture, and vice-versa.
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If someone who is black wants to straighten their hair, it is their personal preference to do so. If that dark skinned person wants to lighten their skin it's their body to do so. If someone who has white skin wants to use a fake tanner, bake their skin in the sun, inject their lips until they're bee-stung it's their right to do so. If there's someone who is Asian has eye surgery or nose surgery that's their business to do so. It doesn't affect YOUR LIFE one way or the other. It's not your business, it's not your life, mind your own business.
So what you're saying is, this discussion it not any of my business?
I disagree. Race is a biological construct with social and economic ramifications. Or you might say it was a taxonomic construct, which is a subset of biology.
In an idealized sense maybe, but what we use by "race" is phenotypical not genotypical. It doesn't strictly correlate to the Y-chromosome, mitochondrial, or other biological grouping.
"Blacks" really represent many "races" (in the sense of variations of people) such as the Bantu, Nilotic, etc. Africa likely has more races than any place with many of these races being black. There are somewhat less Asian races, European Australia/Oceanian races, Amerindian, etc.
For example as a Luo Barack Obama's father was likely not of the same biological variant as Yaphet Kotto, an actor who is the child of Cameroonian immigrants. However "racially" they'd have been deemed the same as "race" doesn't correspond to biological variant. In that sense it is socioculturally created.
Last edited by Thomas R.; 07-15-2009 at 04:15 PM..
Reason: past-tensing as Obama Sr.'s dead
There is no such thing as "race" the concept of "race" only exists to separate humans into discrete groups according to superficial physical features.
Reading about anthropology and genetics should clear up any abnormal beliefs a person has about the outmoded concept of "race".
There is no such thing as a "race". There is only one race of humans on earth. Homo Sapiens.
The differences between people are a direct result of man's migration out of Africa to populate the planet. Distinct differences in skin color, hair texture, limb length result from years of adaptation to climate and sunlight exposure. Genes favor one environment or another FOR THE SURVIVAL OF THE ORGANISM and change by mutation or insertion and are passed down to future generations. That's the only difference between someone who comes from Siberia, Sri Lanka, or Senegal or any other point on the planet.
These changes originally happened very very slowly over tens of thousands of years when humans lived in isolated groups, these changes have been accelerated by genetic drift in the distant past (30000+ years ago) and today human genetic information travels much faster in modern times because of transportation like international jet travel and modern immigration.
When people stop putting so much importance on something that NOBODY had any control over before they were born to be here on planet earth, we could all actually get on with the more important things in life such as solving problems that affect ALL HUMANS on the planet. Infant mortality, disease, hunger, political strife, enslavement, human trafficking, female oppression, etc...
YOU DIDN'T SELECT YOUR PARENTS, THE NATION YOU WERE BORN IN - EVEN IF YOUR PARENTS MADE THAT EFFORT, OR THE ETHNICITY YOU WERE BORN TO SO WHY MAKE AN ISSUE OF IT AT ALL?
The subject of "race" has been beaten to a pulp and whenever I see a thread I feel compelled to point out how ridiculous this subject is.
If someone who is black wants to straighten their hair, it is their personal preference to do so. If that dark skinned person wants to lighten their skin it's their body to do so. If someone who has white skin wants to use a fake tanner, bake their skin in the sun, inject their lips until they're bee-stung it's their right to do so. If there's someone who is Asian has eye surgery or nose surgery that's their business to do so. It doesn't affect YOUR LIFE one way or the other. It's not your business, it's not your life, mind your own business.
. Like the old saing goes..."Mind yer own business and ya won't be mindin' mine"
(1) So then you agree with me; you simply expanded upon my point, which is that race (or as you call it, "differences between people") is a product of natural selection.
(2) Did you have something to contribute to the topic?
(3) I think it had something to do with black Americans adopting traditionally white culture, and vice-versa.
So what you're saying is, this discussion it not any of my business?
Is it any of your business, either?
(1) Natural selection is as simple as being 5'2" and mating with someone 6'5" in order to force taller genes in your offspring. This has zero to do with race. If you read my original post I explain why people from different regions of the earth have distinct physical features which are different from others.
The differences which you call "race" stem from groups being isolated and adapting to a particular climate and geographical region. Isolation is the key. What happens when someone flies from China and moves to Brazil. Chances are they will find a mate in Brazil and have offspring. The offspring aren't any less human, they're from parents of different ethnicities, but not races. There's only one race, that's human. It is incorrect to ascertain that because a group of humans have been isolated in a particular part of the planet are of a different race because that is simply not the case. You are genetically related to every person on the planet. The concept of distinct races is a myth.
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The differences between people are a direct result of man's migration out of Africa to populate the planet. Distinct differences in skin color, hair texture, limb length result from years of adaptation to climate and sunlight exposure.Genes favor one environment or another FOR THE SURVIVAL OF THE ORGANISM and change by mutation or insertion and are passed down to future generations. That's the only difference between someone who comes from Siberia, Sri Lanka, or Senegal or any other point on the planet. These changes originally happened very very slowly over tens of thousands of years when humans lived in isolated groups, these changes have been accelerated by genetic drift in the distant past (30000+ years ago) and today human genetic information travels much faster in modern times because of transportation like international jet travel and modern immigration.
(2) I contributed to the topic by saying it's false to debate about race because there is no such thing as race.
(3) No, the original question and thread topic is "Why are minorities considered wanting to be white? Why are black people considered wanting to be white when they straighten their hair or bleach their skin, why aren't white people considered trying to be black when they tan their skins and get their lips injected with plastic". What I said was people should mind their own business and not worry about why someone straightens their hair or tans their skin because it's not for you to try to understand it's the way they choose style their appearance.
You should go back to post #1 and re-read it. In fact re-read the entire thread instead of coming in at the end.
I made this post my business just as you have by commenting on it. I don't care to judge why people alter their physical appearance, it's their body they can do what they choose with it. I don't much care for tattoos or body piercings personally, so I won't have any. I'm not going to say it's wrong for someone else, it's just not something I choose to do with my body. There are cultural, social and ethnic reasons for body modification and that's fine for some people but I'm not going to make blanket statements about those who choose to put holes in their faces that they're trying to adopt a culture or ethnicity that isn't one they're born to. It's their choice. I have seen people of Asian and European descent wear dreadlocks that are typical of Rastafarians, frankly I think they look ridiculous wearing them but, hey, it's not my business to delve into reasons why they're wearing a Rasta hair style, it's their personal preference, and their life. Honestly, deep down they know they're not Rastafarians from Jamaica... Honestly who cares!
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