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Old 07-05-2023, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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Construction Journal's website says Construction on first phase is "expected in August of 2023" . The first phase according to the website will be the construction of a 12-story AC Hotel, retail and an 80 unit apartment building. There will be a total of 348 apartment units.

https://www.constructionjournal.com/...b32a9acab.html

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Old 07-05-2023, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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This is a stupid conversation but youre completely misreading the definition here.

This is simply saying that the "tower" of a hypothetical building with 16 floors of office space, a parking level, and two floors of mechanical plant comprises only of the office floors.

The example above only contains 19 stories anyway.

Here's the full context.

https://www.lawinsider.com/dictionary/office-tower

Agreed that it is a conversation, but not stupid. And, there are no hard definitions of "tower" and "skyscraper" as they change over time. It is subjective. But most would agree that many new buildings are much taller today than in the past, so definitions, and perspectives, have changed accordingly. A 10 story skyscraper in the 1800's is now a mid-rise building.

A 10 story building was actually considered to be a "skyscraper" in the mid to late 1800's. Today, it would be considered a typical mid-rise building; not even a "tower". The Empire State Building was truly a skyscraper when it was built in the 1930's. It still is. Along with the Chrysler Building.

Nobody thinks that a 10 story building is a "tower" today. Unless it is located in Mayberry.
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Old 07-05-2023, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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You mean skyscraper. A 10-story building is considered a tower.
A 20 story building is certainly not a "skyscraper". Unless it is in Mayberry.
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Old 07-05-2023, 09:20 PM
 
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Agreed that it is a conversation, but not stupid. And, there are no hard definitions of "tower" and "skyscraper" as they change over time. It is subjective. But most would agree that many new buildings are much taller today than in the past, so definitions, and perspectives, have changed accordingly. A 10 story skyscraper in the 1800's is now a mid-rise building.

A 10 story building was actually considered to be a "skyscraper" in the mid to late 1800's. Today, it would be considered a typical mid-rise building; not even a "tower". The Empire State Building was truly a skyscraper when it was built in the 1930's. It still is. Along with the Chrysler Building.

Nobody thinks that a 10 story building is a "tower" today. Unless it is located in Mayberry.
Your last sentence hits it in a snarky way. Perspective is everything.

In NYC or Chicago, yeah they might consider 10 stories to be more mid-rise. But in many cities, even those like Raleigh, 10 stories can be very much a tower. Not to be confused with skyscraper.

In a general building sense though, tower simply means a tall and narrow building. That's it. Also, the word tower is likely being used as a sell by the developer. Project Slugger was billed similarly but rarely is that label given to it these days.

As for "high-rise", the generally accepted definition there is considered to start at about 7 stories.
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Old 07-05-2023, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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A 10 story building is not a tower, however it’s a decent mid rise, if Greensboro can lane another 20+ tower, that is what’s going to help it, it’s a shame Carroll sob(lol) fell through, that was an impressive building and would have pushed GSO to the next level.
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Old 07-05-2023, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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Your last sentence hits it in a snarky way. Perspective is everything.

In NYC or Chicago, yeah they might consider 10 stories to be more mid-rise. But in many cities, even those like Raleigh, 10 stories can be very much a tower. Not to be confused with skyscraper.

In a general building sense though, tower simply means a tall and narrow building. That's it. Also, the word tower is likely being used as a sell by the developer. Project Slugger was billed similarly but rarely is that label given to it these days.

As for "high-rise", the generally accepted definition there is considered to start at about 7 stories.
10 stories is not a tower. Unless it is being labeled that by a developer, or fanboy. 10 stories is a nice mid-rise building. Nothing more, nothing less. Nothing wrong with that. And, a 20 story building IS NOT a skyscraper.
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Old 07-05-2023, 09:52 PM
 
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A tower is whatever anyone will call a tower, same with a skyscraper. Fun fact, the VERY FIRST BUILDING to be called a "Skyscraper" was, get this, 10 stories tall. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Insurance_Building
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Old 07-05-2023, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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A tower is whatever anyone will call a tower, same with a skyscraper. Fun fact, the VERY FIRST BUILDING to be called a "Skyscraper" was, get this, 10 stories tall. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Insurance_Building
Did you read my previous posts about 1800's 10 story skyscrapers?

Apparently not.

Folks this is 2023. 10 story buildings aren't "towers". 20 story buildings aren't "skyscrapers".
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Old 07-06-2023, 02:41 AM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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Did you read my previous posts about 1800's 10 story skyscrapers?

Apparently not.

Folks this is 2023. 10 story buildings aren't "towers". 20 story buildings aren't "skyscrapers".
10 story buildings are indeed towers.

"A tower is a tall structure, taller than it is wide, often by a significant factor." At 10 stories, its a significant factor.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Towe

Btw a 20-story building can be called a skyscraper. In feet, the Wells Fargo Tower and Lincoln Financial tower both meet the "technical" definition of a skyscraper in feet. But as Wikipedia states...in height, though there is no universally accepted definition, other than being very tall high-rise building meaning most of the tall buildings in downtown Greensboro particularly the four tallest can be considered a skyscraper including the Koury Convention Center

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Old 07-06-2023, 09:30 AM
 
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Who gives a *****? Some of yall ****** argue over the stupidest things. Are things that boring in Raleigh or wherever to come to a Greensboro thread to argue over "towers" ?

Anyway.. Heavenly Buffalo's has closed. I wonder if anything will take its place. I thought it had promise when it opened, but the restaurant business is brutal.
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