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Old 06-01-2017, 10:43 AM
 
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IMO, the "love" comes mainly from transplants who won't or can't accept change moving here. When rumors start to float for one of these over rated stores many comments effectively contain "I miss XXXX so much when we lived XXXXX" or "I shopped there all the time when we lived XXXXX."

I would rather see something unique be used for that space and/or something that pays a livable wage(s). It's baffling to watch people clamoring for a business that pays minimum wage or slightly above.
TJ's is well regarded all over; it's hardly just a Greensboro thing.
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Old 06-01-2017, 11:21 AM
 
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IMO, the "love" comes mainly from transplants who won't or can't accept change moving here. When rumors start to float for one of these over rated stores many comments effectively contain "I miss XXXX so much when we lived XXXXX" or "I shopped there all the time when we lived XXXXX."

I would rather see something unique be used for that space and/or something that pays a livable wage(s). It's baffling to watch people clamoring for a business that pays minimum wage or slightly above.
Well then you should be in favor of TJ's:

"Trader Joe's pays its crew members an average minimum hourly wage of $13.29, according to Glassdoor. The grocery store also provides free dental and vision care to all employees who work more than 15 hours per week."

http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/20...e/Trader-Joe-s

Its baffling to read posts written by people who have knowledge of the topic.
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Old 06-01-2017, 04:04 PM
 
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Well then you should be in favor of TJ's:

"Trader Joe's pays its crew members an average minimum hourly wage of $13.29, according to Glassdoor. The grocery store also provides free dental and vision care to all employees who work more than 15 hours per week."

10 companies that pay higher than minimum wage - Trader Joe's - CSMonitor.com

Its baffling to read posts written by people who have knowledge of the topic.
An average minimum hourly wage? WTH is that? If it's minimum it's at the bottom and $27,000 per year (at 40 hours) is not much to brag about. Seems like the entire Triad is still stuck in 1990 wages.
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Old 06-01-2017, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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Lol I hate those dang pay walls and you always find them with the most interesting articles. This article is talking about Roy Carroll and the planned parking deck/Aloft across the street from the ballpark. If anyone has access could you give us a brief summery? At one time you could pick up a business journal at the book store or buy one from a paper vending machine downtown. Its subscription only now

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...5t019C1fj7ajnw

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Old 06-01-2017, 06:20 PM
 
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Per Triad Business Journal.

Roy Carroll was prepared to wait before building a parking deck for guests on a lot he bought from Guilford County across the street from the Hyatt Place hotel at Carroll at Bellemeade, the project he's building at the corner of Eugene and Bellemeade streets in downtown Greensboro.

But Carolina Investment Properties and Gemcap Cos., developers of a planned nine-story office tower next to First National Bank Field, needed parking for it by fall of 2018.
When asked by Downtown Greensboro Inc. President Zack Matheny about taking on partners for a parking deck at the corner of North Eugene and Bellemeade, Carroll said he was willing to speed up his timetable, even though it meant making sure that parking underneath Carroll at Bellemeade would be ready for both tenants and hotel guests at the same time.
"The timing's not right for us," Carroll told Triad Business Journal, noting that work on the apartment phase of Carroll at Bellemeade must catch up to the apartments. "We were in the schematic design phase of what we were going to put there. But if we can help with (the ballpark building) project, we'll work with the city. Anytime a (ballpark building) or another project takes place downtown, that's good for the Carroll Companies."

Carroll said he had been planning to use the conventional lot on the parking deck site for hotel parking until the apartments were finished.

On May 2, City Council approved a memorandum of understanding for a public-private partnership with Carroll that will add a minimum of 1,050 parking spaces to the stadium area.

Without the parking deck, Carolina Investment Properties President Robin Team said development the ballpark building would not have been feasible.

Carroll said he was likely to build on and around the parking deck. According to a Starwood Properties website, a 150-room Aloft Hotel is planned to open on the site in 2020. Carroll refused to confirm plans for the hotel, but said he expected to make a "major announcement" on future downtown plans sometime this summer.
Carroll will be responsible for engineering and architecture work and building of a 1,050-seat parking deck, which will be paid for and owned by the city. Carroll has the option to build his own private parking — at his cost — on additional levels. City Finance Director Rick Lusk said the arrangement is similar to the city's April partnership with a group led by Randall Kaplan for an 850-space parking deck to serve a planned Westin hotel on South Elm Street.

Carolinas Investment Properties and Gemcap will have the right to lease 350 spaces. Other spaces will be designated for use by Guilford County for jurors and other needs.

Lusk said the city would pay up to $2 million for engineering and architectural plans for the parking deck. The city would then have to approve the plans. The city council would have to approve spending $30 million — provided by the issuance of limited obligation bonds — for construction of the deck.

Once the parking deck is open, Lusk said the city-owned part of the structure would be paid for by parking fees as well as property and hotel sales taxes.

"Those revenues should cover the expenses," said Lusk, who added that the city's $65 per month parking charge would have to be "adjusted."

The deck would be convenient to Carroll at Bellemeade, the new ballpark building, the planned Steven Tanger Center for the Performing Arts and any future construction on undeveloped land surrounding the stadium.

"We need the additional parking capacity for economic development and to drive job growth downtown," City Manager Jim Westmoreland told Triad Business Journal. "We have reached our capacity at our existing four downtown parking locations."

By agreeing to construction of the parking deck, Carroll said he would need to find a way to handle parking demands for the hotel and apartments when they are scheduled to open early in 2018.

"We haven't got all that figured out yet," he said. "We're just trying to speed things up with the apartments."
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Old 06-01-2017, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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Thanks alot! So looks like we should expect a major announcement this summer on his plans for the Aloft site. Carroll states he will build on top of and around the parking deck. Can't wait to hear the details! Interesting... plans call for an 8 story parking deck according to city documents. Carroll has the option of adding his own parking on additional levels which could make the parking deck portion taller than 8 stories. Let just say he adds two levels making it a 10 story parking deck. If he adds a 20 story tower on top of the deck as indicated by city documents, we are looking at a 30 story structure and thats not counting any kind of spire. Whether its Project 561 or not, it would be Greensboro's new tallest building. Even with an 8 story deck it would still be slightly taller than the Lincoln Financial Building. That building has 20 floors but is 26 stories tall when you count the pyramid top.

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Old 06-01-2017, 08:36 PM
 
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An average minimum hourly wage? WTH is that? If it's minimum it's at the bottom and $27,000 per year (at 40 hours) is not much to brag about. Seems like the entire Triad is still stuck in 1990 wages.
$27K/yr with full benefits is a solid wage for front-line retail workers.. in fact it's far better than most retailers. Trader Joes would be a major win for Greensboro. Hopefully TJs will change their mind sometime soon.
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Old 06-01-2017, 10:30 PM
 
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$27K/yr with full benefits is a solid wage for front-line retail workers.. in fact it's far better than most retailers. Trader Joes would be a major win for Greensboro. Hopefully TJs will change their mind sometime soon.
A solid wage? Perhaps if you are starting out in life or have no ambitions of having much in life. The figure presumed a 40 hour week.
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Old 06-02-2017, 12:43 AM
 
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Per Triad Business Journal.

Roy Carroll was prepared to wait before building a parking deck for guests on a lot he bought from Guilford County across the street from the Hyatt Place hotel at Carroll at Bellemeade, the project he's building at the corner of Eugene and Bellemeade streets in downtown Greensboro.

But Carolina Investment Properties and Gemcap Cos., developers of a planned nine-story office tower next to First National Bank Field, needed parking for it by fall of 2018.
When asked by Downtown Greensboro Inc. President Zack Matheny about taking on partners for a parking deck at the corner of North Eugene and Bellemeade, Carroll said he was willing to speed up his timetable, even though it meant making sure that parking underneath Carroll at Bellemeade would be ready for both tenants and hotel guests at the same time.
"The timing's not right for us," Carroll told Triad Business Journal, noting that work on the apartment phase of Carroll at Bellemeade must catch up to the apartments. "We were in the schematic design phase of what we were going to put there. But if we can help with (the ballpark building) project, we'll work with the city. Anytime a (ballpark building) or another project takes place downtown, that's good for the Carroll Companies."

Carroll said he had been planning to use the conventional lot on the parking deck site for hotel parking until the apartments were finished.

On May 2, City Council approved a memorandum of understanding for a public-private partnership with Carroll that will add a minimum of 1,050 parking spaces to the stadium area.

Without the parking deck, Carolina Investment Properties President Robin Team said development the ballpark building would not have been feasible.

Carroll said he was likely to build on and around the parking deck. According to a Starwood Properties website, a 150-room Aloft Hotel is planned to open on the site in 2020. Carroll refused to confirm plans for the hotel, but said he expected to make a "major announcement" on future downtown plans sometime this summer.
Carroll will be responsible for engineering and architecture work and building of a 1,050-seat parking deck, which will be paid for and owned by the city. Carroll has the option to build his own private parking — at his cost — on additional levels. City Finance Director Rick Lusk said the arrangement is similar to the city's April partnership with a group led by Randall Kaplan for an 850-space parking deck to serve a planned Westin hotel on South Elm Street.

Carolinas Investment Properties and Gemcap will have the right to lease 350 spaces. Other spaces will be designated for use by Guilford County for jurors and other needs.

Lusk said the city would pay up to $2 million for engineering and architectural plans for the parking deck. The city would then have to approve the plans. The city council would have to approve spending $30 million — provided by the issuance of limited obligation bonds — for construction of the deck.

Once the parking deck is open, Lusk said the city-owned part of the structure would be paid for by parking fees as well as property and hotel sales taxes.

"Those revenues should cover the expenses," said Lusk, who added that the city's $65 per month parking charge would have to be "adjusted."

The deck would be convenient to Carroll at Bellemeade, the new ballpark building, the planned Steven Tanger Center for the Performing Arts and any future construction on undeveloped land surrounding the stadium.

"We need the additional parking capacity for economic development and to drive job growth downtown," City Manager Jim Westmoreland told Triad Business Journal. "We have reached our capacity at our existing four downtown parking locations."

By agreeing to construction of the parking deck, Carroll said he would need to find a way to handle parking demands for the hotel and apartments when they are scheduled to open early in 2018.

"We haven't got all that figured out yet," he said. "We're just trying to speed things up with the apartments."
wow, had the ball park never been Completed, none of this would be happening. It'seems crazy how one development can cause such a change.
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Old 06-02-2017, 03:38 AM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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wow, had the ball park never been Completed, none of this would be happening. It'seems crazy how one development can cause such a change.
I remember back in 2002 and 2003, the people were against building a downtown ballpark said it would never attract development and would cause a traffic nightmare through Fisher Park. They were wrong in both cases. If it had not been built the old DSS building would have continued to deteriorate and that whole area would be dead. Its hard to image that there was a petition to ban downtown stadiums and we had to vote whether or not we wanted a privately funded ballpark. It seems like after the ballpark was built the city's attitude began to change and we became a can do city. I havent seen resistance to change since.
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