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Never knew what this controversy was about - seeing we do not have that chain of chicken joints in Canada- I did hear on the radio this morning that gays and lesbians are going to have a kiss in at these outlets in an attempt to disrupt business...That is what I do not get. An old executive states his belief that men should not marry men...and now those that disapprove of his statement seek to utterly destroy his business and drive this family into poverty if they could?
It goes beyond stating beliefs. He didn't just express his beliefs, he affirmed that he is investing millions of dollars towards groups that seek to outlaw marriage equality and criminalize their lifestyle.
That would be like going out of your way to boycott the fashion industry...stop hiring interior designers...making sure that all gay waiters were fired...Boycotting every Elton John concert... I don't believe that straight society would use such aggressive tactics to punish someone who slighted them through disagreement.
"Straight society" aka conservative society, have boycotted plenty of things. Again, this isn't just a disagreement.
It seems that the gay community is more aggressive and dominating than straights. Maybe domination is part of the culture? I don't know- But myself personally- I don't tolerate being dominated by anyone...The old man owning the chicken joints can say what he wants- and so can the gay community- but causing monetary harm is exactly like causing physical harm in the long run. If they don't like the guy- stop eating his chicken...Don't try to gang up on him and insist that everyone join in on this punitive action.....and if they don't destroy the chicken guy- then they are not nice people? It defies logic...
It may seem that the gay community is more aggressive and dominating, but as a liberal-ish person living in a conservative area, it appears the opposite. We're talking about a minority group fighting for the same rights that the rest of us have. Just the thought of the leftists staging a boycott organized the right into a frenzy, uniting in greater numbers than any charity cause I've ever seen. Conservatives are quick to boycott McDonald’s, Pepsi, Coca-Cola, Intuit, Kraft, Arby’s, Walmart and put those poor, defenseless owners out in the cold. Don't forget the boycott of the Dixie Chicks for saying that they were not proud of their president. Times sure have changed around here.
Besides, no one is actually going to destroy the company; they sell a good product, with great service at a high margin. There are plenty of people who love their fried freedom chicken, even gay patrons, who will continue to eat there regardless of what happens. What might happen is that if the company ever goes public, they might have to take a more neutral stance on other people's lives.
If this chicken guy were some poor old man in the back alley and he spewed his opinion...would you kick the crap out of him if you could? I am starting to wonder.
Which is more likely, a gay individual beating up a conservative man, or a conservative beating up a gay man? I don't have to wonder.
Never knew what this controversy was about - seeing we do not have that chain of chicken joints in Canada- I did hear on the radio this morning that gays and lesbians are going to have a kiss in at these outlets in an attempt to disrupt business...That is what I do not get. An old executive states his belief that men should not marry men...and now those that disapprove of his statement seek to utterly destroy his business and drive this family into poverty if they could?
That would be like going out of your way to boycott the fashion industry...stop hiring interior designers...making sure that all gay waiters were fired...Boycotting every Elton John concert... I don't believe that straight society would use such aggressive tactics to punish someone who slighted them through disagreement.
It seems that the gay community is more aggressive and dominating than straights. Maybe domination is part of the culture? I don't know- But myself personally- I don't tolerate being dominated by anyone...The old man owning the chicken joints can say what he wants- and so can the gay community- but causing monetary harm is exactly like causing physical harm in the long run. If they don't like the guy- stop eating his chicken...Don't try to gang up on him and insist that everyone join in on this punitive action.....and if they don't destroy the chicken guy- then they are not nice people? It defies logic...
If this chicken guy were some poor old man in the back alley and he spewed his opinion...would you kick the crap out of him if you could? I am starting to wonder.
I see points in your post that I both agree and disagree with.
My main point with the way Chick-Fil-A is being targeted is that gay men are using the same tactics that were used against us. Sad. Gay men have been the victims of name calling, rocks thrown through the windows of gay business, protest against gay owned stores opening, etc. It wasn't right when it was done to us and now it isn't right that it is being done to Chick-Fil-A.
If it isn't right for someone to call me a "f****t"' then it isn't right for me to call someone a Bible Thumper.
If it isn't right for someone to protest a gay owned business, then it isn't right for me to protest a Christian owned business.
If it isn't right for a person to burst into a gay owned business and spew hatred, then it isn't right for me to go through a drivethru window at Chick-Fil-A and spew hatred.
If it wasn't right for local governments to condem gay bars, then it isn't right for local governments to condem Chick-Fil-A....ie: Rahm Emanuel / Chicago.
Quite sad to see so many gay men using tactics that for years were used against us.
And by the way.....the gay "kiss in".....plain stupid. I don't want to see two men kissing in public, nor do I want to see a hetero couple kissing in public. No PDA. Keep it in the bedroom.
It's disgusting to see the neutral stance taken on some of these posts. A company that funds groups to lobby and withhold/marginalize civil liberties from gay Americans.... And, you folks still insist on doing the City Data dance out of fear it may have an impact on your (comfort zone of acceptance) creedence here. Show some form of real personal dignity FCS.
If it isn't right for someone to protest a gay owned business, then it isn't right for me to protest a Christian owned business.
The question is why you are protesting, not who you are protesting. If the tables were turned and there was a gay owned business that was speaking out and taking actions to eliminate heterosexual marriage rights, then they should rightly be criticized for their bigoted stance.
It's disgusting to see the neutral stance taken on some of these posts. A company that funds groups to lobby and withhold/marginalize civil liberties from gay Americans.... And, you folks still insist on doing the City Data dance out of fear it may have an impact on your (comfort zone of acceptance) creedence here. Show some form of real personal dignity FCS.
Marriage is a "civil liberty"? When did that happen? And what is a "Gay American"? How absurd to define yourself by your sexuality. What's next "Foot-Fetish Americans", "Missionary Position Americans"? This madness has to stop.
I heard a woman on talk radio put it perfectly. I will not buy Ben and Jerry's ice cream, due to their radical leftist beliefs and support of such causes, but I do not petition the supermarket manager to not stock it on their shelves. That's what the left wants to do; demonize and destroy anyone with whom they disagree. Just look at the posts in this thread. In virtually every single one of Art's threads he calls anyone who does not want to redefine marriage as a "hateful bigot". Art wants us to act, think and vote like him, or he will call us nasty names and try to destroy us. Folks, this is the type of fascism that we MUST stand up against, and that's what CFA Appreciation Day was all about.
Marriage is a "civil liberty"? When did that happen? And what is a "Gay American"? How absurd to define yourself by your sexuality. What's next "Foot-Fetish Americans", "Missionary Position Americans"? This madness has to stop.
I heard a woman on talk radio put it perfectly. I will not buy Ben and Jerry's ice cream, due to their radical leftist beliefs and support of such causes, but I do not petition the supermarket manager to not stock it on their shelves. That's what the left wants to do; demonize and destroy anyone with whom they disagree. Just look at the posts in this thread. In virtually every single one of Art's threads he calls anyone who does not want to redefine marriage as a "hateful bigot". Art wants us to act, think and vote like him, or he will call us nasty names and try to destroy us. Folks, this is the type of fascism that we MUST stand up against, and that's what CFA Appreciation Day was all about.
You criticize someone for calling folks a bigot and then you call them a fascist?!?!?!?
I think what really needs to stop is all the spewing of vitriol at one another from both sides. Why has this country dissolved into people yelling at each other from opposite sides of the fence on EVERY issue?
Marriage is a "civil liberty"? When did that happen? And what is a "Gay American"? How absurd to define yourself by your sexuality. What's next "Foot-Fetish Americans", "Missionary Position Americans"? This madness has to stop.
I heard a woman on talk radio put it perfectly. I will not buy Ben and Jerry's ice cream, due to their radical leftist beliefs and support of such causes, but I do not petition the supermarket manager to not stock it on their shelves. That's what the left wants to do; demonize and destroy anyone with whom they disagree. Just look at the posts in this thread. In virtually every single one of Art's threads he calls anyone who does not want to redefine marriage as a "hateful bigot". Art wants us to act, think and vote like him, or he will call us nasty names and try to destroy us. Folks, this is the type of fascism that we MUST stand up against, and that's what CFA Appreciation Day was all about.
I wouldn't care what the manufacturer's beliefs were just as long as the product they put out was a safe good quality product. I wonder if the caller realizes that Ben and Jerry's is one of the few mfrs that doesn't use milk from rBGH treated cows in their ice cream. I think I'd choose my health over politics and unless I was planning to give up dairy I wouldn't boycott their product. Although I might if the majority rather than a tiny minority of food manufacturers marketed really safe organic, non-irradiated, GM0 free products.
I still to this day haven't eaten at Chick-fil-A after living here for over 4 years and being told by at least a couple South Carolinians what a great company Chick-fil-A is. I just checked their website and from a health standpoint they don't look to offer any better quality than any other fast food place. They say they use "fresh food" but there is no mention of FREE RANGE or at least CAGE FREE chickens and no mention of ORGANIC or GMO FREE and then when you look at the ingredients, even of a grilled chicken sandwich, it's loaded with preservatives!
And the man is a hate-filled bigot. He obviously has the right to be that way.
But the things he wants to accomplish go WAY over the line as far as infringing on the rights of others in their pursuit of life, liberty, justice, and happiness.
And that's where the line in the sand has to be drawn.
Wednesday was one of the saddest days I've witnessed in this country.
Been trying to rep ya, Art, but They won't let me.
Is porn considered coveting thy neighbor's property?
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What's next "Foot-Fetish Americans", "Missionary Position Americans"? This madness has to stop.
