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Old 06-26-2014, 12:05 AM
 
Location: mainland but born oahu
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Uh. Uh. Help you?

Let me ponder that.

Hmmm, nope. I can't help lost causes.
Ha ha ha what you do write that one? You and 72CUFT need to take your act on the road. Your perfect for eachother. All you would have to do to get along is tell eachother how wonderfully special, superior and great each other is.
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Old 06-26-2014, 12:44 AM
 
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So basically what your saying is it wasn't wrong, because it was our ancestors actions, eventhou today we have benefitted from what our ancestors did and really native peoples for the most part are still paying the price? Just want to make sure i understand you?
No, I am not saying that how things were done weren't wrong. In fact, if you actually paid attention I have said before that the situation was done wrong. However, there are MANY wrongs that have been done, including by "native Hawaiians". If you want to go back and correct all the wrongs equally and fairly, then we have something to talk about. If you just want to pick and choose, trying to fix some but completely ignoring others, how is that fair and just?
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Old 06-26-2014, 02:00 AM
 
Location: Kahala
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This is a good story that relates to how to squander wealth. Native Hawaiians where wealth is off the chart take note.

Wealth slips away from rich families - Jun. 25, 2014
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Old 06-26-2014, 05:44 AM
 
Location: honolulu
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by Andrew Walden

The Office of Hawaiian Affairs is on another ‘Nation Building ‘Aha’ drive, but even with the offer of a $10,000-per-meeting bribe, sovereignty activists remain skeptical--as they should—and the dots connect right back to the last big scheme to loot the Hawaiian patrimony--Broken Trust.

Sovereignty activist Leon Siu, March 22, 2014, recites the history of OHA’s schemes:

“Before the Akaka Bill, there was the Native Hawaiian Convention (Aha Hawaiʻi ʻŌiwi), the product of years of preparation: electing delegates from each island, extensive community meetings, creating governance models to be considered at a Native Hawaiian constitutional convention, etc. But when the state realized that there was a strong possibility that Aha Hawaiʻi ʻŌiwi would choose the independence model, the state suddenly yanked the funding, essentially freezing the process in place. Since then, every other OHA/State-funded governance initiative got its plug pulled whenever it arrived at favoring independence.”

Free Hawai’i has been running weekly video exposes of OHA’s latest ‘Aha since March 5. Like Lucy holding a football for Charlie Brown, the Office of Hawaiian Affairs claims, “This time will be different.” The April, 2014 edition of Ka Wai Ola features coverage of a March 14-15 “Nation Building Summit” at which “70 leading thinkers on Hawaiian sovereignty … pressed their call for unity at a statewide summit designed to adopt an ambitious set of goals to provide a jolt of energy to Hawaiian nation building.” 70 x $10,000 = $700,000.

OHA is going out of its way to give the appearance that it is pushing for a pro-independence outcome at the ‘Aha. This is likely aimed at pressuring the US Department of Interior. But even as OHA’s CEO Kamanao’opono Crabbe was pandering to the “summit” -- OHA Chair Colette Machado, Native Hawaiian Roll Commission Head John Waihe`e III, and others were in Washington DC secretly meeting with the US Department of Interior.

After Free Hawai’i exposed OHA’s duplicity, Crabbe admitted they were right—but offered money to buy off activists willing to go along. In a page 14 column, strategically positioned above an ad encouraging groups planning community events to apply for a $10,000 “’Aha Hui Grant”, Crabbe announces that OHA is “talking to people who may have previously opposed OHA and we’re pledging financial support to groups with divergent views on self-determination and sovereignty.” 70 x $10,000 = $700,000.

Crabbe then admits OHA is in secret negotiations with the Feds and that such negotiations are OHA’s job and are part of a “process” designed to bring something to the table:

“…there are so many things that are up in the air. We are committed to a process. The great value of this process is that it brings hope to our people.

“At the Office of Hawaiian Affairs, we will help facilitate and educate the people on all options for self governance. We are maintaining relationships with the state and federal governments…. Cutting off these relationships would mean we couldn’t bring the latest information to the table for the people to decide upon. So if you hear of ‘secret’ trips or backroom dealing, rest assured that we aren’t straying from the process. We’re doing our job to keep diplomacy alive and keeping all options open for the Hawaiian people.”

Crabbe’s admission came after Free Hawai’i, March 20, 2014 published, “THE PHOTO THEY DIDNʻT WANT YOU TO SEE” and followed up with a video which is drawing lots of attention in the Hawaiian community:



Caption: “Native Hawaiian Roll Commission Head John Waihe`e Sr., OHA Chairperson Colette Machado & OHA Trustee John Waihe`e, Jr. & Others With US Senator Mazie Hirono Before Meeting Secretly Last Week To Have Kana`iolowalu, The Native Hawaiian Roll Administered By The US Dept. Of Interior.”

OHA’s effort comes in spite of the fact that US Department of the Interior Secretary Sally Jewell travelled to Honolulu to address the Council of Native Hawaiian Advancement convention September 4, 2013. Seeming to discourage talk of tribal recognition via executive order, Secretary Jewell told reporters: “It would be preferable to go through the process congressionally because that's a clear path forward. Other paths forward are less clear, and that's what we are assessing.”

Here is the March 19, 2014 Free Hawai’i video ‘Busted and Disgusted’ which spills the beans:
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Old 06-26-2014, 05:46 AM
 
Location: honolulu
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JR-ArAbsgfk#t=81




Three days later, Leon Siu wrote:

OHA also announced at the recent press conference, that during this new nation-building initiative, it was going to be "neutral," not advocating for any particular outcome like they did for 15 years where they spent around $20 million (in beneficiaries' money) to push for the now-defunct Akaka Bill. OHA's new position of neutrality should be treated with skepticism. As a state agency, OHA is hard-wired to an integration, nation-within-a-nation, American Indian tribe model (such as the Akaka Bill and now, Kanaʻiolowalu).

OHA made their "neutrality" announcement two weeks ago. But a week later (last week), OHA chair, Colette Machado; trustee, John D. Waiheʻe, IV; OHA attorney, the former Hawaii State Supreme Court Justice Robert Klein… made a secret trip to Washington, D.C. to talk to the U.S. Department of the Interior (DOI), the U.S. Federal agency that oversees the affairs of American Indian Tribes. Also present were: John D. Waihe'e III (the former governor and current chair of the Native Hawaiian Roll Commission); OHA Washington lobbyist Dennis Dwyer and other prominent state players.

What were they doing at the DOI? Apparently, to make another attempt to strike a back-door deal for (U.S.) "federal recognition" as an Indian tribe. Maybe they thought that by getting federal recognition right now, they could circumvent their own "Native Hawaiian Constitutional Convention" that they just announced the week before! A few days later, at a so-called "governance" conference in Honolulu, when confronted about the secret meeting with the DOI (even other OHA trustees did not know about it), chair Collette Machado admitted and repented that they had made the trip.

So much for OHA's profession of "neutrality"! Old habits are hard to break.

The name of DC lobbyist Dennis Dwyer pops up alongside John Waihee III in Hawaii’s biggest crooked deals of the last three decades.

Dwyer shows up repeatedly to testify secretly in OHA trustees’ executive sessions where John Waihee IV sits as a voting Trustee. Now Dwyer is apparently being paid by either OHA or the Roll Commission (headed by Waihee III) to steer OHA’s negotiations with the US Department of the Interior.

Dwyer’s DC lobbyist firm Williams and Jensen is simultaneously a highly paid lobbyist for the Honolulu Authority for Rapid Transportation and rail contractor Infraconsult.

Waihee and Dwyer both worked for the infamous Verner Liipfert lobbying firm representing OHA until 2001 and also representing the Broken Trustees in their effort to continue looting the Bishop Estate.

And what was it that Verner Liipfert was doing for the Broken Trust gang?

An Oct. 12, 1999, article in the Honolulu Star-Bulletin describes the efforts of Kamehameha Schools/Bishop Estate (KSBE) trustees in 1995 to evade oversight of their corrupt doings. The Trustees’ self-serving investments caused losses of $264,090,257 in 1994 alone. To avoid scrutiny, they considered moving KSBE corporate headquarters out of Hawaii to the windswept plains of the Cheyenne River Sioux Indian reservation in South Dakota.

In an apparent attempt to circumvent state and federal oversight, the Bishop Estate paid Washington D.C.-based (law firm) Verner Liipfert Bernhard McPherson and Hand more than $200,000 to look into moving the estate's legal domicile, or corporate address, to the mainland, sources said.

Verner Liipfert, whose local office is headed by former Gov. John Waihee, identified the Cheyenne River Sioux Reservation as the top relocation prospect after reviewing the legislative, tax and judicial environments of 48 mainland states and Alaska.

The study was part of a broader effort by the former board members to lobby against federal legislation limiting trustee compensation and to convert the tax-exempt Bishop Estate to a for-profit corporation.

Twenty years later Waihee and Dwyer are at it again. This time their target is OHA instead of KSBE.

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Background:

Reservation for a Broken Trust?
OHA’s “New Body Politic” Will Exclude 77% of Native Hawaiians
VIDEO: OHA 'Nation Building' Meets Resistance on the Ground
VIDEOS: Free Hawaii Broadcasting Network - YouTube
Aug 12, 2013: Akaka Tribe: 'Privileged Tribal Leaders' Seek End Run Around Congress
Aug 22, 2013: House Leadership: Only Congress can Create Akaka Tribe
Sept 5, 2013: Interior Secretary: Akaka Tribe Should go Thru Congress
Sept 17, 2013: US Civil Rights Commissioners: Akaka Tribe Executive Order would be Unconstitutional
State Sues to Get Back $39M Looted from Graves by John Waihee
University of Hawaii Study: Native Hawaiians Fear Violence
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Old 06-26-2014, 05:50 AM
 
Location: honolulu
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6Rl-y8Vndk
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Old 06-26-2014, 06:08 AM
 
Location: honolulu
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by Andrew Walden

The Akaka Bill has been abandoned with no version presented to Congress since 2012. OHA’s Kana'iolowalu Roll is such an abject failure that Legislators passed 2013 Act 77 in order to stuff names from Kau Inoa and other previous rolls onto it. But there is one thing which OHA has not abandoned: Its plan to exclude the vast majority of Hawaiians from any version of the Akaka Tribe.

The latest version of the Office of Hawaiian Affairs’ (OHA) scheme to transform Hawaiians into reservation Indians-this time without Congressional action--was outlined in the August, 2013 edition of Ka Wai Ola. On page nine, highlighted in yellow, the OHA house organ explains:

Act 195, the 2011 state law that directed the Native Hawaiian Roll Commission to create an official roll of Native Hawaiians, declares that: 'the members of the qualified Native Hawaiian roll, and their descendants, shall be acknowledged by the State of Hawai'i as the indigenous, aboriginal, maoli people of Hawai'i.

This suggests that Native Hawaiians who are not on the official roll and are not descendants of anyone on the roll, will not be acknowledged by the state as a part of the indigenous, aboriginal, maoli population of Hawai'i....

There was only one problem. Native Hawaiians didn’t want any part of Kana'iolowalu.

For these reasons, OHA strongly supports Act 77, a 2013 law that protects the rights of all verified Native Hawaiians registered with OHA to be included on the official roll and to receive all the rights and recognitions of membership. Under Act 77, OHA will transfer all verified Native Hawaiians from Kau Inoa, Hawaiian Registry and Operation 'Ohana registries to the native Hawaiian Roll Commission to be included on the official roll.

Then, after noisily rejecting demands from Right Star grave robber John Waihee III for more OHA cash, OHA Trustees last fall shut down the Kana'iolowalu Roll. But on March 6, 2014, with Waihee out of the picture, the Office of Hawaiian Affairs teamed up with pardoned convicted felon Bumpy Kanahele and protest-for-cash operative Walter Ritte, to announce that the Roll would be briefly reopened and that OHA would “serve as facilitator in Hawaiian nation building.”

What does that mean? OHA Trustee Peter Apo explains in a March 14 news release:

The Board voted to begin the process of dissolving OHA because the constitutional provision that established OHA requires OHA to hold its assets in trust for the Hawaiian people. OHA and the Hawai‘i state legislature have always interpreted this to mean we are a temporary placeholder for the Hawaiian Nation. Most recently, Act 195 passed in 2012 (sic) provides: “The Legislature urges the office of Hawaiian affairs to continue to support the self-determination process by Native Hawaiians in the formation of their chosen governmental entity.”….

OHA, in collaboration with other leading Hawaiian organizations, is initiating a process that will lead to an election of delegates to a Governance ‘Aha (constitutional convention). ‘Aha delegates will then propose the form, scope, and principles that would guide the governing entity. … Their proposal would be ratified—or not—through a referendum of the Hawaiian people. The voters will be the 120,000 people who have registered on the Native Hawaiian Roll to date, or who register when the Roll reopens from March 17 to May 1, 2014. Over $550,000,000 in trust assets, now managed by OHA, will be transferred to this new governing entity which will succeed OHA as an independent body politic separate from state government.

According to the 2010 US Census there are 527,077 Hawaiians in the US. Limiting the “new body politic” to Roll signers means OHA will dissolve itself into a new State-recognized “body politic” and disenfranchise 407,000 Native Hawaiians--77%--in the process. The “new body politic” will control $550M in State of Hawaii/OHA assets and the larger body politic will have no say in the matter. Likewise the larger group of Native Hawaiians who have no interest in Kana'iolowalu or any of OHA’s previous Rolls will have no say. This is in line with the versions of the Akaka Bill introduced into Congress starting after Obama was elected which excluded an estimated 73% of Native Hawaiians by declaring them “not qualified.”

Ethnicity is being re-defined by the Legislature and by OHA as consisting of only those Native Hawaiians willing to go along with OHA’s schemes. To sign Kana'iolowalu, one must affirm Hawaiian ancestry but also agree to two political qualifications:

I affirm the unrelinquished sovereignty of the Native Hawaiian people, and my intent to participate in the process of self-governance.
I have a significant cultural, social or civic connection to the Native Hawaiian community.
Native Hawaiians who do not affirm “unrelinquished sovereignty” – whatever that means -- are excluded. Likewise excluded are those who do not participate in the internal backbiting and factionalism of Hawaiian groups vying for OHA cash. If you are not politicized, you are not Hawaiian.

From its formation in 1978 to 2000, participation in OHA elections was limited to Native Hawaiians. Then the US Supreme Court’s February 23, 2000 ruling in Rice v Cayetano overturned OHA’s limited franchise, holding: "A state may not deny or abridge the right to vote on account of race, and this law does so." Fifteen years later, OHA’s plan is to create “an independent body politic separate from state government” which will not only exclude non-Hawaiians but also the 77% of Native Hawaiians who have refused to sign on to any of OHA’s rolls. Descendants of the 77% will also be excluded regardless of whatever political opinion they may come to hold.

OHA is not “holding its assets in trust for the Hawaiian people.” OHA is holding its assets in trust for the day when its cronies can exclude enough of the Hawaiian people to grab the $550M for themselves.

OHA’s “New Body Politic” Will Exclude 77% of Native Hawaiians > Hawaii Free Press
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Old 06-26-2014, 06:39 AM
 
Location: honolulu
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Interior Considers Procedures to Reestablish a Government-to-Government Relationship with the Native Hawaiian Community


Indian Country Consultations – July 29 through August 7

Tuesday, July 29 -- Minnesota – 9:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m.
Mystic Lake Casino Hotel, Prior Lake, MN

Wednesday, July 30 -- South Dakota – 1:00 p.m. to 4:00 p.m.
Rushmore Civic Center, Rapid City, SD

Friday, August 1 -- Washington – 9:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m.
Tulalip Resort, Seattle, WA

Tuesday, August 5 -- Arizona – 9:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m.
Talking Stick Resort, Scottsdale, AZ

Thursday, August 7 -- Connecticut – 9:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m.
Mohegan Sun, Uncasville, CT

As set forth in the ANPRM, the Department welcomes comments from leaders and members of the Native Hawaiian community and federally recognized Indian tribes, as well as the State of Hawaii, its agencies, other state agencies, and the general public. Attendance at the above-listed consultation meetings is not required for public comment.

In addition to the public meetings, comments can be submitted online through the Federal eRulemaking Portal: Regulations.gov beginning later this week, or via U.S. mail, courier, or hand delivery to: Office of the Secretary, Department of the Interior, Room 7329, 1849 C Street NW, Washington, DC 20240 (please use Regulation Identifier Number 1090-AB05 in your message).
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Old 06-26-2014, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Kūkiʻo, HI & Manhattan Beach, CA
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This is a good story that relates to how to squander wealth. Native Hawaiians where wealth is off the chart take note.

Wealth slips away from rich families - Jun. 25, 2014
Anyone that's studied the finances of the Hawaiian monarchy under Kalākaua (aka the "Merrie Monarch") already know what can happen when wealth is squandered. And, there's also the story of Samuel "Kamuela" Keaoililani Parker who neglected the family business (i.e. the Parker Ranch), lived lavishly, and ended up having to sell most of his share of the ranch to settle his debts.
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Old 06-26-2014, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Kihei, Maui
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Or, how long does it take to drive to Hawaii from North Carolina?
You go west over the rivers and through the woods until your hat floats
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