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Its different in California. A doctor cannot refill any prescription without a seeing the patient. Depending on the amount of pain and how much the patient needs one months worth can vary in amount and strength.
That has to be state law because Federal law allows what I stated. Many people get/got confused when the new Federal law went into effect including my doctor. I had to explain to her that while she could only write a 30 day supply with 0 refills she could write up to 3 at a time as long as they were dated with "do not fill before" dates.
You might want to check and see if CA is actually different or if there's a misunderstanding. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if CA is different btw, they're such a nanny state with everything else...
I'm referring to teens getting their wisdom teeth out. OXY should never be handed out for that. I am really lucky. No Dr. has ever given me a higher level of pain med than I needed. And if they did, it was number of milligrams and I would say no, give me the 5's, not the 10's. I know they can be cut, but I'm cutting the 5's already.
Someone gave me part of an oxy once saying it was the same as my hydrocodone. It was NOT. AT ALL. LIKE. my hydrocodone.
I understand people with much higher pain (and a higher tolerance to drugs than me). I stipulated already in this thread and illustrated the case of my mother who did need Oxy and couldn't get it.
But I am talking about the other end.
I don't think a lot of posters responding understand why there is a war on Oxy. Because Purdue is waging a war on us and they have to be fought.
Are you aware they make a 2.5mg Hydrocodone? My wife got them as anything stronger knocked her on her butt.
Dr said it was a child's dose and called it a "guppy pill" (we joked around a lot)
My pain has been with me for most of my life. It started in my feet and worked it's way into all of my major joints at age 11. I was dx'd with JRA at 12 and I went on to continue with gymnastics, swimming and cheerleading. I did not want to be different, so I did things I should not have.
I was dx'd with Lupus at 24 and had my first stroke at 29. I had both hips replaced in my mid 20s.The pain was intense and brought me to tears several times a day, yet I did not want my children to see me crying in pain. I ended up with an T-12 incomplete SCI in 1995 and have been in a wheelchair since then.
The involuntary spasms cause muscle pain up and down my back, hips and thighs. My hands and shoulders were shredded from the use of a manual chair for 5 years, when I was finally able to qualify medically for a power chair.
I had different forms of medicines, massages and hot tub therapy. The pain remained around a 6-7. I have a fairly high pain threshold, my 10 was reserved for my multiple abdominal surgeries when I was cut from just under my breastbone to my pubis my intestines pulled out, cut, resewn and stuffed back in my body. I have literally lost track of the surgeries. I had several cutdowns a colectomy, MORE cutdowns, an ileostomy and 4 more surgeries to unblock what was left of my small intestines.
I had fentanyl patches along with high doses of morphine to try to control my daily pain. I attempted suicide twice (not easy when you have to hide meds from the person doling them out), I hacked at my wrists with a razor (not the blades alone since I had no way to obtain them).
I had to move from bed to the floor, the floor to a recliner in a never-ending rotation. Since I couldn't do this on my own another person would have to physically move me. I felt like a boulder wrapped around the necks of my family.
I tried everything including psychological therapy, physical therapy, hydrotherapy and hypnosis along with the high dose medications.
I finally got a pain pump. I have fentanyl, dilaudid and lidocaine delivered directly to my spinal column. This has brought the pain down to a 3-4; levels that I had not felt since I was 11. I had 36 years of intractable pain. If I end up losing access to these meds because some people misuse them and end up addicted my life will return to a living hell. Someone ending my life like a sick pet would be the kindest thing someone could do for me.
Some people may thing I am being dramatic, but I am explaining things in the best way I know.
God Bless you and I swear if anyone comes back and states they could handle the pain and don't need pain pills...…….I will scream to the high heavens!!!!!
God Bless you and I swear if anyone comes back and states they could handle the pain and don't need pain pills...…….I will scream to the high heavens!!!!!
No one wants the meds to go away for those that need them. The war on over-prescribing and such has to be balanced to account for this. I am rather cynical. If Drs are witholding from people who need them due to fear from the DEA, who are they over-prescribing to? If they aren't over-prescribing, they won't have a DEA problem.
For my back, my pcp at a point said no more hydrocodone for you. He said I don't want you on it long term. I want you doing PT instead and if that doesn't work you will have to see pain management. I know him well enough that he truly doesn't want me on them, but perhaps sending me to pain management if I have no choice is due to DEA limits on how many he can be prescribing.
Did you need OXY? I'm not saying that pain from wisdom teeth never rises to the level of needing something more than an NSAID. I am saying no one needs OXY.
They didn't have Oxy back then but since I was still in considerable pain even with what they gave me, perhaps Darvocet way back then?, I would have welcomed 3 or 4 days of Oxy.
I am pretty sure 4 days on Oxy wouldn't have turned me into a raging addict prowling the streets looking for heroin.
My pain has been with me for most of my life. It started in my feet and worked it's way into all of my major joints at age 11. I was dx'd with JRA at 12 and I went on to continue with gymnastics, swimming and cheerleading. I did not want to be different, so I did things I should not have.
I was dx'd with Lupus at 24 and had my first stroke at 29. I had both hips replaced in my mid 20s.The pain was intense and brought me to tears several times a day, yet I did not want my children to see me crying in pain. I ended up with an T-12 incomplete SCI in 1995 and have been in a wheelchair since then.
The involuntary spasms cause muscle pain up and down my back, hips and thighs. My hands and shoulders were shredded from the use of a manual chair for 5 years, when I was finally able to qualify medically for a power chair.
I had different forms of medicines, massages and hot tub therapy. The pain remained around a 6-7. I have a fairly high pain threshold, my 10 was reserved for my multiple abdominal surgeries when I was cut from just under my breastbone to my pubis my intestines pulled out, cut, resewn and stuffed back in my body. I have literally lost track of the surgeries. I had several cutdowns a colectomy, MORE cutdowns, an ileostomy and 4 more surgeries to unblock what was left of my small intestines.
I had fentanyl patches along with high doses of morphine to try to control my daily pain. I attempted suicide twice (not easy when you have to hide meds from the person doling them out), I hacked at my wrists with a razor (not the blades alone since I had no way to obtain them).
I had to move from bed to the floor, the floor to a recliner in a never-ending rotation. Since I couldn't do this on my own another person would have to physically move me. I felt like a boulder wrapped around the necks of my family.
I tried everything including psychological therapy, physical therapy, hydrotherapy and hypnosis along with the high dose medications.
I finally got a pain pump. I have fentanyl, dilaudid and lidocaine delivered directly to my spinal column. This has brought the pain down to a 3-4; levels that I had not felt since I was 11. I had 36 years of intractable pain. If I end up losing access to these meds because some people misuse them and end up addicted my life will return to a living hell. Someone ending my life like a sick pet would be the kindest thing someone could do for me.
Some people may thing I am being dramatic, but I am explaining things in the best way I know.
Your situation is thankfully very rare. Also, you should be able to continue to receive opiates to address your pain under the new laws.
Your situation is thankfully very rare. Also, you should be able to continue to receive opiates to address your pain under the new laws.
If you read some of the early posts, you'll see this is changing rapidly. Even chronic pain patients on these meds for decades with no problems are being told they must be weaned from them. This has resulted in a surge in suicides among chronic pain patients. Congressional hearings were held recently for them to tell their stories and try to keep these new draconian laws from taking away their quality of life.
They could also be selling them on the street (like the poster who went to the street to get his mom some pain killer that WORKS) to ease someones pain whose $!it @ss doctor has bought into the PHONY opioid crisis and would rather have their patient suffer.
Only YOU seem to think so...that'll end one day when a loved one is made to suffer instead of getting the opioid that keeps him/her pain free.
Consider yourself and loved ones lucky...for now.
Its different in California. A doctor cannot refill any prescription without a seeing the patient. Depending on the amount of pain and how much the patient needs one months worth can vary in amount and strength.
I think I mentioned this but in NC you just see your pain management doctor once a month which should be done anyways to determine the efficacy of the regimen you’re on and screen for any potential abuse. For me the two hours it takes out of a day is worth adequate coverage for the rest of the month. If I didn’t breed I though it would also be enough of a deterrent to stop taking the meds.
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