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They didn't have Oxy back then but since I was still in considerable pain even with what they gave me, perhaps Darvocet way back then?, I would have welcomed 3 or 4 days of Oxy.
I am pretty sure 4 days on Oxy wouldn't have turned me into a raging addict prowling the streets looking for heroin.
No, but part of the problem is they script 30 days. Maybe that wouldn't be a problem for YOU, but it is for a lot of people. Then it's hanging around. The teen in the house scams it to get high. There are a million scenarios.
Maybe YOU wouldn't, but another person would just LOVE them and keep taking them after they are no longer needed and they do get hooked and manufacutre pain to get more.
No, but part of the problem is they script 30 days. Maybe that wouldn't be a problem for YOU, but it is for a lot of people. Then it's hanging around. The teen in the house scams it to get high. There are a million scenarios.
Maybe YOU wouldn't, but another person would just LOVE them and keep taking them after they are no longer needed and they do get hooked and manufacutre pain to get more.
Teens in the house scam to get booze too, but people have it in their home anyway. The majority of people can take opiates and not become addicted. I don't have teens in the house. I hid it anyway. When I went to pain management I had to take an Uber, wait for 2 hours in pain, and pay a $50 co-pay. You want people who have NO problems to have to pay $50 every week or whatever their specialist co-pay is, cause some teen in West Virginia takes his mom's pills. That's awesome.
Teens in the house scam to get booze too, but people have it in their home anyway. The majority of people can take opiates and not become addicted. I don't have teens in the house. I hid it anyway. When I went to pain management I had to take an Uber, wait for 2 hours in pain, and pay a $50 co-pay. You want people who have NO problems to have to pay $50 every week or whatever their specialist co-pay is, cause some teen in West Virginia takes his mom's pills. That's awesome.
I said nothing of the kind. I referenced the fact that when Drs script 30 days or more for something that only needs 4 days, in response to a poster talking about needing 4 days of it, that often creates many problems. That is just one in a hundred of the problems with how these drugs are marketed and pushed on people.
Big Pharma is evil and they want as many addicts as possible and they don't care the toll it takes, it makes them billions of dollars. Every overdose came from lining their pockets.
I am LUCKY. LUCKY not to be addicted. Why in the F would I be sent with hydrocodone for a SORE THROAT? That is insane. That is not good care. That is not looking after what is in the best interests of the patient. Of course though I was like 'cool'. I wasn't aware at the time HOW addictive they are.
No one wants to make it hard or impossible for people who do need it. Some of us are highly concerned with them seeking to addict the world.
I said nothing of the kind. I referenced the fact that when Drs script 30 days or more for something that only needs 4 days, in response to a poster talking about needing 4 days of it, that often creates many problems. That is just one in a hundred of the problems with how these drugs are marketed and pushed on people.
Big Pharma is evil and they want as many addicts as possible and they don't care the toll it takes, it makes them billions of dollars. Every overdose came from lining their pockets.
I am LUCKY. LUCKY not to be addicted. Why in the F would I be sent with hydrocodone for a SORE THROAT? That is insane. That is not good care. That is not looking after what is in the best interests of the patient. Of course though I was like 'cool'. I wasn't aware at the time HOW addictive they are.
No one wants to make it hard or impossible for people who do need it. Some of us are highly concerned with them seeking to addict the world.
I agree to a point, but doctors were not forced to prescribe them all just because pharma companies pushed them. They don't have control over doctors. This is not a whole lot different than doctors over-prescribing antibiotics for decades, to the point that we are seeing antibiotic resistant strains of everything from Gonorrhea to urinary tract infections, and a spread of weird, used-to-be-rare diseases like that flesh-eating bacteria.
They did it with antibiotics for the same reasons they did it with pain meds. It was easy, and health care is set up now to be an assembly line, get them in and get them out. I don't think pharma companies should get all or even most of the blame. Our entire health care system needs to be overhauled. But they aren't going to do that, they will only do knee-jerk reactionary actions such as severely limiting the amount that can be made or that pharmacies can have on hand, and the result is still going to be millions of people suffering, it will just go from addicts suffering to legitimate pain patients suffering. Big pharma and the health care system will make their money either way and still won't care.
I want to add though, I have never been offered pain meds for a sore throat or similar ailment from any doctor I've had.
I said nothing of the kind. I referenced the fact that when Drs script 30 days or more for something that only needs 4 days, in response to a poster talking about needing 4 days of it, that often creates many problems. That is just one in a hundred of the problems with how these drugs are marketed and pushed on people.
Big Pharma is evil and they want as many addicts as possible and they don't care the toll it takes, it makes them billions of dollars. Every overdose came from lining their pockets.
I am LUCKY. LUCKY not to be addicted. Why in the F would I be sent with hydrocodone for a SORE THROAT? That is insane. That is not good care. That is not looking after what is in the best interests of the patient. Of course though I was like 'cool'. I wasn't aware at the time HOW addictive they are.
No one wants to make it hard or impossible for people who do need it. Some of us are highly concerned with them seeking to addict the world.
Hmmmm....99.9% of docs do not and never have prescribed that for a sore throat.
You thought "it was like cool"
Sorry but addicts ARE making it impossible for true pain patients. How about being highly concerned for them.
Hmmmm....99.9% of docs do not and never have prescribed that for a sore throat.
You thought "it was like cool"
Sorry but addicts ARE making it impossible for true pain patients. How about being highly concerned for them.
I think you made that stat up. That is precisely one of the problems going on. Handing it out when it isn't needed. Bronchitis IS painful. I can't speak for others, but for me it's more in the chest, the coughing, but for whatever reason he said or wrote for throat pain.
If they weren't highly addictive that might be appropriate. As in matching to the pain level. But they ARE highly addictive and it's better just to bear it or take a Tylenol. I think cough syrup/pills have Tylenol for this reason.
As to addicts being the problem, ok, but you have to look at how addicts are often created. Drs. saying it's safe, they won't get addicted, and they believe it. It's coming from a Dr. They aren't accepting smack at a party.
Only YOU seem to think so...that'll end one day when a loved one is made to suffer instead of getting the opioid that keeps him/her pain free.
Consider yourself and loved ones lucky...for now.
Sorry, but it's not "only me" apparently since lawsuits against pharmaceutical companies have been successful, and laws are being changed. I don't have that kind of power.
No, but part of the problem is they script 30 days. Maybe that wouldn't be a problem for YOU, but it is for a lot of people. Then it's hanging around. The teen in the house scams it to get high. There are a million scenarios.
Maybe YOU wouldn't, but another person would just LOVE them and keep taking them after they are no longer needed and they do get hooked and manufacutre pain to get more.
I was never given a 30 day script for wisdom teeth removal or a root canal....more like enough for 4 or 5 days. I don't believe a dentist has ever given a patient a 30 day supply for those kinds of procedures.
As far as other people misusing their prescriptions, like making it possible for their teens to get their hands on them, the same can be said of alcohol and guns.
How many alcoholics first started drinking because they had access to their parent's supply of alcohol?
How many times has a child or teen used a parent's gun to shoot someone, either accidentally or on purpose?
A LOT, yet society doesn't make it nearly impossible for people to access alcohol or guns.
A LOT of people drink and drive, yet society doesn't automatically assume everyone who buys alcohol is going to drink and drive.....THAT is what they are doing with pain medication.....assuming everyone is guilty because of what some people do and that is NOT RIGHT.
The VAST MAJORITY of people who use pain medications do so responsibly and without incident and they should not have to suffer because of those who don't.
Sorry, but it's not "only me" apparently since lawsuits against pharmaceutical companies have been successful, and laws are being changed. I don't have that kind of power.
Just make sure you KEEP the doctor for you and your mom that you now have.
My doctor (a pain specialist) abandoned his patients ( a few months ago) without even notifying them (we found out when we made an appt to see him) and is now working with the addicts dispensing methadone...much more money to be made that way.
When I expressed disappointment that he never even notified his patients the receptionist said that yes, he should have, and that now they are left with dealing with his aftermath (disgruntled patients).. while still there, he'd quite often go around the office saying (in front of everyone)..."it's all about the money".
I managed to find a new doctor and her first words to me were...."I don't prescribe opioids, except for extreme cases of cancer".
I said GOOD, cause that's not why I'm here" and the appt proceeded from there.
Should your doctor retire or move into another "specialty"......or for some reason you must find a new doctor (one who doesn't know you),.YOU could face the same denial of the drugs that work for you....hopefully not.
Last edited by purehuman; 09-28-2018 at 11:50 AM..
I was never given a 30 day script for wisdom teeth removal or a root canal....more like enough for 4 or 5 days. I don't believe a dentist has ever given a patient a 30 day supply for those kinds of procedures.
As far as other people misusing their prescriptions, like making it possible for their teens to get their hands on them, the same can be said of alcohol and guns.
How many alcoholics first started drinking because they had access to their parent's supply of alcohol?
How many times has a child or teen used a parent's gun to shoot someone, either accidentally or on purpose?
A LOT, yet society doesn't make it nearly impossible for people to access alcohol or guns.
A LOT of people drink and drive, yet society doesn't automatically assume everyone who buys alcohol is going to drink and drive.....THAT is what they are doing with pain medication.....assuming everyone is guilty because of what some people do and that is NOT RIGHT.
The VAST MAJORITY of people who use pain medications do so responsibly and without incident and they should not have to suffer because of those who don't.
could not have said it better!!
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