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Old 04-02-2020, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Forest bathing
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If face coverings become mandatory, maybe I will just wrap one of my bras around my head when I go out.
A friend of mine jokingly posted on FB a photo of him wearing his briefs with his nose and eyes peeking through the opening.
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Old 04-02-2020, 01:11 PM
 
Location: SW Florida
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A friend of mine jokingly posted on FB a photo of him wearing his briefs with his nose and eyes peeking through the opening.
LOL, kind of a reverse mask, maybe.
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Old 04-02-2020, 02:15 PM
 
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I just heard a public TV ad saying that they don't stop you from getting COVID. But now CDC is considering telling the truth. If they don't work why do docs and nurses wear them? duh - of course they work.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...a6d_story.html
Well, I'm really confused, now.

But I think what I heard before is still true: masks don't protect the wearer; they protect others from the wearer. Which is what I've been hearing, and passing on, for a month.

We can't get masks now, can we? So we're supposed to wear scarves like banditos?
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Old 04-02-2020, 04:02 PM
 
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Well, I'm really confused, now.

But I think what I heard before is still true: masks don't protect the wearer; they protect others from the wearer. Which is what I've been hearing, and passing on, for a month.

We can't get masks now, can we? So we're supposed to wear scarves like banditos?
N95 (or higher) masks DO protect the wearer, but a traditional surgical mask does not. However, if everyone is wearing a mask, then everyone is protecting others.
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Old 04-02-2020, 04:58 PM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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N95 (or higher) masks DO protect the wearer, but a traditional surgical mask does not. However, if everyone is wearing a mask, then everyone is protecting others.

Please stop repeating your fantasies here as if they're facts.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32167245


9000 subjects-- all health care workers dealing with hospitalized influenza pts-- both N95 and surgical masks were equally effective in preventing disease transmission to the wearers.


We have no specific data on CoV, so we can't be certain that it also holds true.


As the cited article states, in lab tests, the N95 masks filtered out more artificial dust (25x more!) but that didn't translate into clinical benefit.


It's reasonable to deduce that even a makeshift bandana may help: we don't have to filter out all virus particles, just enough to stay below the minimum effective inoculum. It certainly isn't perfect. It's less than optimum. But it's gotta be better than nothing.
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Old 04-02-2020, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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Nobody has them, this is the problem.
LOL, I ordered cool black ones Jan 30 --they were shipped the next day ...
still haven't got them, April 2 ...China.
Can't live with 'em, can't live without 'em.
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Old 04-02-2020, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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Online---- are simple patterns to cut out and use 26in shoe strings - needle and thread and a TV
to sit in front of is all you need. Cut up up tee shirts, what ever...
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Old 04-02-2020, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Fullerton, CA
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I wore one to the grocery store today. I had it on correctly and let me tell you I don't know how the medical profession can wear these 10 hrs a day. It drove me crazy for the hour that I was out shopping.
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Old 04-02-2020, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Dessert
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It's reasonable to deduce that even a makeshift bandana may help: we don't have to filter out all virus particles, just enough to stay below the minimum effective inoculum. It certainly isn't perfect. It's less than optimum. But it's gotta be better than nothing.
Here's a comparison of filter materials, including scarves and surgical masks
https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/...ce-mask-virus/
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Old 04-02-2020, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Dessert
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LOL, I ordered cool black ones Jan 30 --they were shipped the next day ...
still haven't got them, April 2 ...China.
Can't live with 'em, can't live without 'em.
I used to order lots of beads and jewelry supplies from China; hundreds of orders and rarely had a problem. Then about a year ago, orders stopped arriving. Apparently, they were being stopped at some border and disposed of (probably taken home by workers). I stopped buying direct from China. It's a bummer, I have to pay more to get the same item from a middleman.
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