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Hey genius, this is an internet forum and I am stating my informed opinion.
BTW, I am not a Caps fan, so I have no skin in the game.
Now, for you and the other Datsyuk fans, not so much.
I'm a fan of both, but the Red Wings are my hometown team, the Caps are the team where I live now. I have no skin in the game either. I watch both teams and I think both PD and AO are awesome. I just get to see lots of PD and he is amazing. He just doesn't grab the headlines like AO does.
It's useless to compare their first years. PD played for the Wings in his first year. Have you seen the list of players that were on that team. If AO started on that team he would have been on the 4th line if not a healthy scratch.
Right now, PD is better. AO is more flash and excitement, PD is pure skill.
As to your second paragraph: the other poster did not say that PD plays twice as much as AO, nor did they say AO plays twice as much as PD. Where did you get that from?
to preface this, I am a bruins fan and want to see AO and the caps lose if they run into my precious B's
There is no way a 50 goal scorer on his 20th birthday would be a 4th line grinder on the red wings even during the superb 2002 season. I remember seeing ovechkin play in the world juniors before his NHL stint and i knew he was good enough even back than to crack the top line on most NHL clubs. The kid is that good. Yes, he would have been lower on the depth charts, but given his rookie season...second line at worst.
Don't confuse systems for players. Datsyuk is part of a world class system that wins championships...period. Ovechkin makes or breaks games by himself. PV doesn't bring the same physical presence to the game that Ovechkni does either. Datsyuk is a better set up guy by the numbers, but he has Zetterberg to dish too who is also a proven NHL point leader as well.
who did ovechkin have his rookie year? Danius Zuberus? lol
i'll conclude by saying both players bring something special to the game. This is a team sport where the best team will skate with the cup come june. I could care less if AO is better than PV, and on any given night, both could be the best. On off nights, tom Poti could be better than both!
It's useless to compare their first years. PD played for the Wings in his first year. Have you seen the list of players that were on that team. If AO started on that team he would have been on the 4th line if not a healthy scratch.
Right now, PD is better. AO is more flash and excitement, PD is pure skill.
As to your second paragraph: the other poster did not say that PD plays twice as much as AO, nor did they say AO plays twice as much as PD. Where did you get that from?
exactly, you bring up a very good point, lots of very skilled players get less time on the Wings be/c they rotate 4 lines all the time and due to their depth.
and you're right, I said he takes more shifts and plays on thefirst unit PK along with the PP, he's more versitle but try telling that to the es*N sportscenter crowd.
There is no way a 50 goal scorer on his 20th birthday would be a 4th line grinder on the red wings even during the superb 2002 season. I remember seeing ovechkin play in the world juniors before his NHL stint and i knew he was good enough even back than to crack the top line on most NHL clubs. The kid is that good. Yes, he would have been lower on the depth charts, but given his rookie season...second line at worst.
Detroit wasn't one of those clubs. That was an all-star team. Yzerman, Shanahan, Fedorov,Hull, Robitaille (spelling?), Larionov, etc... Neither Ovechkin or Crosby, would have made 1st or 2nd line on that team. Remember Bowman was the coach. He nearly always went with experience, especially in the playoffs. He would not have the ice time to score 50 goals on that team.
In reading the rest of the post it is obvious that you don't know what Datsyuk can do. Ovechkin does not have the moves that Dats does. The sad thing though is that neither has done much scoring in the first round. I like them both though and I'm rooting for the Caps tonight!
Hmmmmm.......Datsyuk is up for two awards, Lidstrom is up for Norris, ....again, ......would this mean that the 'experts' think PD is a better player than AO and that Detroit is, in fact, the hockey capital of the world....... I wonder.......?
Detroit wasn't one of those clubs. That was an all-star team. Yzerman, Shanahan, Fedorov,Hull, Robitaille (spelling?), Larionov, etc... Neither Ovechkin or Crosby, would have made 1st or 2nd line on that team. Remember Bowman was the coach. He nearly always went with experience, especially in the playoffs. He would not have the ice time to score 50 goals on that team.
In reading the rest of the post it is obvious that you don't know what Datsyuk can do. Ovechkin does not have the moves that Dats does. The sad thing though is that neither has done much scoring in the first round. I like them both though and I'm rooting for the Caps tonight!
I do not frequently watch the red wings outside of the playoffs, so I don't understand all he can do. I do look at his stats and recall from past playoff series that he fits very well into a strict defense first detriot system. There is a reason he was near the leaders in +/- all season. He helped shut down crosby and malkin last year in the finals, and was an offensive threat in even strength situations as well as special teams.
no hate towards PD here. If I had to pick a player to mold myself into, it would be PD as opposed to ovechkin for sure. Ovechkin's style is wreckless at times and not condusive to a long NHL career...he's going to get hurt.
I'll conclude by saying my opinion is that AO is the more complete player. If I was a GM and had to pick one to sign long term, right now it might be AO due to his age and ability whilst being mindful of the drawbacks of injury due to his style of play.
Geno Malkin. Flat out.
AO might be the best goal scorer, but Malkin is the best all around player.
GO PENS!
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