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Old 11-07-2019, 11:54 AM
 
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Besides, those farm houses/multi-acre lots of being sold for a nice profit by the owners.

The scenarios aren't even close to being the same.
Are you saying that people can't sell their house in inner city for a big chunk of money.
I've seen many 1500sq/ft house being sold at $250/sqft.
That's comparable to the price you see in The Woodlands.
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Old 11-08-2019, 05:10 AM
 
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The right question Is., "Which Houston neighborhoods are the most "IN NEED OF" gentrification?
Right now I'd probably say that 5th ward is the best candidate.
Gentrification brings in a lot of venture capital so it feeds the economy.

No, thanks. We have no need or want for your predatory venture capital that seeks to erase our heritage and displace our people.



Plenty of white areas for you take investments. We'll invest in our own communities.
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Old 11-08-2019, 05:22 AM
 
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No, thanks. We have no need or want for your predatory venture capital that seeks to erase our heritage and displace our people.



Plenty of white areas for you take investments. We'll invest in our own communities.
You won't invest. You never have, and likely never will. Besides, there's nothing you can do to stop your neighbor from selling their property to the highest bidder.

Things change over time. The greater Riverside area was all white until blockbusting in the 60's turned it predominantly Black. No reason the reverse won't happen.
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Old 11-08-2019, 05:46 AM
 
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You won't invest. You never have, and likely never will. Besides, there's nothing you can do to stop your neighbor from selling their property to the highest bidder.

Things change over time. The greater Riverside area was all white until blockbusting in the 60's turned it predominantly Black. No reason the reverse won't happen.

That's what you think.
https://www.khou.com/article/mobile/...tion/409618200

And firstly, the northside and biggest part of third ward above truxillo st was always black. The shotgun homes that line the streets of third ward were built by hand by freed slaves and their children in traditional African-American architectural style on empty lots. The city as a whole was over a quarter enslaved before the civil war and was reliant on the cotton industry in the outlying rural areas(ie we built this city).

And the very first park in the entire state of TX, emancipation park, was established by freed black slaves in 1872 in third ward.

The entire culture of third ward from the music, food, art, architecture was built by African-Americans.

White people contributed nothing to third ward. White people sure as hell weren't the reason Dowling st(thankfully renamed to Emancipation blvd) became the hub for Houston's first music(blues) scene.

The oldest standing restaurant in third ward, This is it Soul Food, sure as hell wasn't established by white people in 1959.

Third Wards oldest and only hospital, Riverside General Hospital formerly known as The Houston Negro Hospital, sure as hell wasn't established by white people.

Secondly, white people abandoned the smaller south third ward because of suburbanization, discriminatory lending, and red lining that regulated black people to only live in certain parts of the city and out of most suburbs whereas white people were free to cash in on their small urban homes for much bigger nicer looking properties in the burbs. Good riddens to 'em.

If you think we will just roll over and wont fight back then clearly you haven't studied the history of this city or even just third ward.

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Old 11-08-2019, 09:54 AM
 
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No neighborhood of any cultural heritage should ever - EVER - get to decide who is allowed to buy or reside or open a business there. We had a whole civil rights movement in the 1960s dedicated in part to that idea. Furthermore, this country has property rights at the core of its very identity; that should not be compromised through zoning or other measures. Things like the outlawing of chain stores in SF are sickening - all decent people agree on this.
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Old 11-08-2019, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Houston
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That's what you think.
https://www.khou.com/article/mobile/...tion/409618200

And firstly, the northside and biggest part of third ward above truxillo st was always black. The shotgun homes that line the streets of third ward were built by hand by freed slaves and their children in traditional African-American architectural style on empty lots. The city as a whole was over a quarter enslaved before the civil war and was reliant on the cotton industry in the outlying rural areas(ie we built this city).

And the very first park in the entire state of TX, emancipation park, was established by freed black slaves in 1872 in third ward.

The entire culture of third ward from the music, food, art, architecture was built by African-Americans.

White people contributed nothing to third ward. White people sure as hell weren't the reason Dowling st(thankfully renamed to Emancipation blvd) became the hub for Houston's first music(blues) scene.

The oldest standing restaurant in third ward, This is it Soul Food, sure as hell wasn't established by white people in 1959.

Third Wards oldest and only hospital, Riverside General Hospital formerly known as The Houston Negro Hospital, sure as hell wasn't established by white people.

Secondly, white people abandoned the smaller south third ward because of suburbanization, discriminatory lending, and red lining that regulated black people to only live in certain parts of the city and out of most suburbs whereas white people were free to cash in on their small urban homes for much bigger nicer looking properties in the burbs. Good riddens to 'em.

If you think we will just roll over and wont fight back then clearly you haven't studied the history of this city or even just third ward.
Yep as I got folks off Yellowstone and they laugh when they said how fast the whites left in the 60s when they moved in. Cullen MS was white. Most went to Hiram Clarke, South Park, Missouri City, Fondren or by Sterling but left again. What a vicious cycle

The issue is when the youth who were forced to live in a gentrified area get older - where will they go? Who’ll be able to unload the abundance of overpriced townhomes?
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Old 11-08-2019, 10:32 AM
 
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The thing is no one outside of the AA community in Houston has ever really contributed to cultural identity of the city.
No disagreement there. In fact, this holds true for essentially all the big cities in the South. I really hate to say this, but conservative White Americans are the most boring group of people on the planet - particularly those of high religious stock.

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So while your areas may not be bursting at the seams with culture and heritage, ours is. Feel free to sell your own legacy or lack their of away to big developers to come in and put a bunch of superficial polish to cover up much deeper social issues that go far beyond ritzy infrastructure, but leave us out of it. We wont just be rolling over and allowing outsiders to force us out of our neighborhoods(many of which were literally built from the the ground up on bare lots and acreages) and erase our culture.
The truth is that these developments aren't mutually exclusive at all. People of all races and all backgrounds can contribute in the revitalization of neighborhoods like 3rd Ward, and unleash the ultimate urban experience. The right developers can certainly contribute in accelerating this progress, while also honoring the heritage that gave birth to the neighborhood. Especially the case when you have a burgeoning Tier 1 Research University right next door, combined with lots of international immigration.

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No, thanks. We have no need or want for your predatory venture capital that seeks to erase our heritage and displace our people.



Plenty of white areas for you take investments. We'll invest in our own communities.
Right, nothing is stopping black venture capitalists from taking charge. Chamellionare himself is doing so right now. Race really doesn't matter in this.
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Old 11-08-2019, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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Come on man what happened to "The Dream" I thought we were all supposed to get along. Gentrification is doing a lot to get rid of segregation. Isn't that what we all want? Lets live together in peace and put race aside. Right? I'm not trying to push anyone out of their home. We offer top dollar for properties that are usually dilapidated and out of repair.
Grandmas house that is what we are after. Grandmas house! We'll give her top dollar and even help her move out into the suburbs where the schools will be better for the grand kids and the house wont need so many repairs. If shes already passed on then we can offer the kids a little something. We can fit 2 or 3 of them nice beautiful 3 story row houses right there in Grandmas old yard. It will make the neighborhood look so much better. Maybe now the mayor will fix those bumpy streets and get some more lighting in the neighborhood. That will help you too.


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No, thanks. We have no need or want for your predatory venture capital that seeks to erase our heritage and displace our people.



Plenty of white areas for you take investments. We'll invest in our own communities.
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Old 11-08-2019, 02:05 PM
 
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That's what you think.
https://www.khou.com/article/mobile/...tion/409618200

And firstly, the northside and biggest part of third ward above truxillo st was always black. The shotgun homes that line the streets of third ward were built by hand by freed slaves and their children in traditional African-American architectural style on empty lots. The city as a whole was over a quarter enslaved before the civil war and was reliant on the cotton industry in the outlying rural areas(ie we built this city).

And the very first park in the entire state of TX, emancipation park, was established by freed black slaves in 1872 in third ward.

The entire culture of third ward from the music, food, art, architecture was built by African-Americans.

White people contributed nothing to third ward. White people sure as hell weren't the reason Dowling st(thankfully renamed to Emancipation blvd) became the hub for Houston's first music(blues) scene.

The oldest standing restaurant in third ward, This is it Soul Food, sure as hell wasn't established by white people in 1959.

Third Wards oldest and only hospital, Riverside General Hospital formerly known as The Houston Negro Hospital, sure as hell wasn't established by white people.

Secondly, white people abandoned the smaller south third ward because of suburbanization, discriminatory lending, and red lining that regulated black people to only live in certain parts of the city and out of most suburbs whereas white people were free to cash in on their small urban homes for much bigger nicer looking properties in the burbs. Good riddens to 'em.

If you think we will just roll over and wont fight back then clearly you haven't studied the history of this city or even just third ward.
I'm not allowed to rep you anymore, so here you go: +1
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Old 11-09-2019, 09:46 AM
 
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The undercover racism in this thread is bothersome.
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