Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
As stated by another poster, if any of the caravan members really wanted asylum, they would be applying for same in Mexico.
Says who,you and another poster? There is no obligation for those people to apply for asylum in Mexico and since parts of Mexico are as poor as where these people came from there's probably very little motivation to stay there. They have the right to apply for asylum here, but take a deep breath - very few will be successful so you will not be invaded by hordes of brown people.
Says who,you and another poster? There is no obligation for those people to apply for asylum in Mexico and since parts of Mexico are as poor as where these people came from there's probably very little motivation to stay there. They have the right to apply for asylum here, but take a deep breath - very few will be successful so you will not be invaded by hordes of brown people.
Would like to see someone post numbers on how many appear to court when their court date arrives and how many of those win their claim.
Most of those illegals don't show up to court under Obama's "catch-and-release" policy (ignore the law).
There's also a study that shows about 20% of asylum seekers qualify for asylum.
You can Google search it on your own.
The data indicates the probability of success is primarily dependent on which judge the asylum seeker gets. Varies for around 50% to near 0%.
I would also note that catch and release would be unnecessary if we did not have years long back logs in the immigration courts. It always come back to the same issue. We need to vastly reduce the number of illegal aliens to have any chance of controlling the situation. There are simply too many to well entrenched for any hope of containing the situation without legalizing most.
Per the bolded----What a ridiculous comment for you to make I don't think any such thing. What will happen with illegals gone is that money that was spent on them will be spent on things like helping our own needy and repairing our aging infrastructure. What a bizarre belief you have---no one is going to take less out of anyone's paycheck
Why is it that you want to take in the entire third world? We can't do that. If any of these illegals are "ripped apart" from their families, it's on them. It's not our fault that this is happening. What decent parent would put their kids through all this and expose them to such risk? BTW, separating kids from parents also happened when Obama was president. So, therefore, Obama's "immigration policies" were cruel.
Your heart bleeds for these people, then pick a banana republic country, pack your bags and move there. Devote all your time and money taking care of their peasants who are functionally illiterate.
Put your money where your mouth is
I have nothing more to say to you as it is clear that you have no compassion for suffering American citizens as you put illegal aliens ahead of American citizens. Buh-bye. Hope you enjoy the work you will do in whatever banana republic you choose to make your new home.
Quote:
What will happen with illegals gone is that money that was spent on them will be spent on things like helping our own needy and repairing our aging infrastructure.
That is a delusion.
Quote:
Your heart bleeds for these people, then pick a banana republic country, pack your bags and move there.
I have nothing more to say to you as it is clear that you have no compassion for suffering American citizens as you put illegal aliens ahead of American citizens.
I have money stolen from my check just as you. No one is consulting me, any more than they consult you on where to delegate the money. I think it is interesting that people believe they have control over that which has been thefted by the u.s. government.
Says who,you and another poster? There is no obligation for those people to apply for asylum in Mexico and since parts of Mexico are as poor as where these people came from there's probably very little motivation to stay there. They have the right to apply for asylum here, but take a deep breath - very few will be successful so you will not be invaded by hordes of brown people.
Maybe in parts, however, migration to u.s. from Mexico has been on the decline for the past 15 years, because the Mexico economy has been improving and the population growth has slowed. Also, Mexico too has freebies, cash even given to low-income moms. Pending on future elections UBI may be implemented, as well. But Mexico may not be the first safe country migrants seeking refuge from persecution enter.
Migrants are seeking safe shelter and they believe the u.s. has that to offer. Some one told them that and they believed it.
California K-12 school population has been flat since 2010 and is projected to decline over the next decade per the California Dept of Finance.
ESL goes down as the kids of illegals grow up here.
ESL or more accurately (ELL = English Language Learners) aren't a big issue for schools. I have a Grandson in the first grade and his class is probably 40% immigrant but only 2 or 3 are hispanic, the rest are from Russia, Greece, the Ukraine, Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria. All the kids are taught in English and the kids who start school in Kindergarten are usually English proficient by the first grade.
As stated by another poster, if any of the caravan members really wanted asylum, they would be applying for same in Mexico.
Why don't the pro- "undocumented immigrant" fanatics explain what we are supposed to do with our own suffering millions? They sure are silent when it comes to our fellow citizens. Where is THEIR compassion? Instead, the fanatics are quick to jump down the throats of those who believe we should follow the immigration laws on the books. Further, we are accused of "hating brown people," meting out inhumane treatment, keeping children in cages, tearing babies out of the arms of their loving mothers, etc. I do not get it.
To compare the present US to the US in 1820 is ridiculous. Our population then was 9,638,000; it's now 329,000,000. And the land mass and natural resources have stayed static. Quite a difference.
The facts are Canada's population is 36,900,000 spread out across the same land size as the US. California's population is 39,000,000... and growing with its unsecured porous southern border. Just what we need.
76.4 million baby boomers ... Millennials 76.2 million
"Although births are projected to be nearly four times larger than the level of net international migration in coming decades, a rising number of deaths will increasingly offset how much births are able to contribute to population growth. Between 2020 and 2050, the number of deaths is projected to rise substantially as the population ages and a significant share of the population, the baby boomers, age into older adulthood. As a result, the population will naturally grow very slowly, leaving net international migration to overtake natural increase as the leading cause of population growth, even as projected levels of migration remain relatively constant." my emphasis
"The annual number of births to all mothers – immigrant and native born – fell off substantially during and after the Great Recession. Birth declines among the foreign born were both more dramatic and more enduring than those of U.S.-born women. While the number of births to U.S.-born mothers began to inch back up as early as 2012, it wasn’t until 2014 that the number of babies born to foreign-born women ticked up."
"Hey stork, you’ve been slacking off — and U.S. health officials know it.
For the second year in a row, the number of babies delivered in the U.S. fell in 2016, according to a new report from the National Center for Health Statistics. For some groups of women, the birth rate reached record lows."
___________
There is a reason it is said in the Bible to go forth and multiply and people believe those are God's instructions not those of their government. Find the workforce in those numbers of only native born, of those that can trace their roots back to Europe.
In years past I always wondered why it didn't matter if it was an R or a D, there would always be some kind of an immunity deal made with immigrants from other countries. That was before the internet and before I could look it up and find reasoning behind those decisions. R and D are looking for one thing ... money and that's it. They will help if it helps them. Trump is the first to throw caution to the wind in the building of a workforce that will pay taxes. And I'm curious as hell, as to how this will work out for the u.s. economy. But then I know that America is not in the final days so could be, this move on immigrants, works towards that ... the final days of the u.s.
However, one thing I know for sure people around the world have stopped having babies at replacement rates, as the stats are in ... the idea of over population is yet another delusional tid bit cast out by governments whose main objective is to control people's lives any way the can.
They believe people are to ignorant to govern themselves.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
I don't think any such thing. What will happen with illegals gone is that money that was spent on them will be spent on things like helping our own needy and repairing our aging infrastructure. What a bizarre belief you have---no one is going to take less out of anyone's paycheck
