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No, PATCO was an illegal strike. For PATCO the RLA process hadn't been exhausted yet.
The RLA has a long process that will ultimatley allow self help. Legally.
The same date the employees can walk the railroad can lock them out. In a strike the railroad can also hire replacement workers. But if the replacement workers aren't qualified at the strikes end, they cannot stay.
The process is long and drawn out to keep steel wheels rolling as long as they can in hopes of an agreement. usually its 2-3 years. This time around its been four years
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That would be quite a move and I really don't see anyone in leadership with a set (so to speak) as big as Ronnie's to do it. Remember the hell in Wisconsin because the union lost the right to collective bargaining for benefits just salary. Remember how they were gouging the public on their overpriced health care plan...
I am sure the list of abuses by the LIRR unions would be far lengthier....
What I'd really love to see is when issues like these occur between two parties (unions and MTA), I'd love it if the public this service affects became the third party in the negotiations. Imagine what a different world it would be if LIRR workers needed to get the people they serve on their side to help decide whether they should get any or everything on their wishlist? It would be in the public's best interest to help avoid a strike and since we basically pay their salaries with our taxes and fares, I think it'd be awesome if we had a say in how it was distributed.
We vote on school budgets - why couldn't we vote on contract negotiations between LIRR and MTA, especially when they can't figure it out for themselves?
I just talked to a conductor again. They do not want to strike. It's so infuriating though how no one knows anything. LIRR employees do not pay into their healthcare, most people do, so they really have some nerve to complain about anything. They can make a nice living on what they are being paid. Why can't they just be grateful for what they get?
A lot of co's havent given raises. The economy is in the toilet.
The conductor mentioned something that the last time they striked people parked @ Shea and took the 7. Anyone know if they are doing that again? I don't see how this could work if there's a home game @ Citifield though.
We vote on school budgets - why couldn't we vote on contract negotiations between LIRR and MTA, especially when they can't figure it out for themselves?
Good question, although you do NOT vote on school district employee contracts.
Funny, it didn't become an issue until just this week And yes, anyone who commutes knows the drill about the tracks and the benefit of knowing which track your train will be on EVERY DAY.
The LIRR employees are screwing with the people who are paying their inflated salaries.
Amtrak, not LIRR employees, controls the track assignments, tracks, East river tunnels. Most of the issues (unless mechanical issues with a train) are on Amtrak's shoulders.
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The reason the MTA exists is because the 'privatized' lines all went bankrupt. Privatization is not the answer.
That was back in 1966 (actually, the state had been subsidizing it as early as the 50s)-- Long Island was a different place back then.
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And yes, anyone who commutes knows the drill about the tracks and the benefit of knowing which track your train will be on EVERY DAY. 
