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Haven't read any of the other posts but check this out (I'm sure this won't be surprising to many):
I commute daily to/from Penn. The train is typically on time both ways give or take a few minutes. I think the latest it's ever been has been 5 minutes.
Well, since Monday:
Leaving Penn: We were "held" and didn't actually leave Penn until 6 or 7 minutes after we should have and got to the last stop 16 minutes late (Monday)
Tuesday: Same BS. Got to the last stop about 14 minutes late.
Today: This morning, there was a "disabled train" in front of us and we got to Penn 13 minutes late. Leaving Penn this evening? They didn't even close the doors on our train until 7 minutes AFTER we should have been out of Penn. Then, surprise surprise, we got "held" just before Jamaica and had to sit there and wait. Ticket taker never bothered coming around to check anyone's tickets (good, I hope some non-commuters got to keep their $14.75!!)
You just KNOW it's the LIRR employees doing this crap on purpose. Do they think the public is going to side with them against the MTA when they pull this garbage???? How about treating the passengers/customers well and we would have their backs in their fight against the MTA? Imbeciles. They think that screwing around, getting people to work late and making them late getting home is going to make the MTA give into their crazy demands???
Wow, strange conspiracy. When I took the LIRR it was late at least once per week in nice weather. Heavy rain or snow and fugghedaboutit. Don't know what magic trains you were on but not mine.
Far from an apologist for these shnooks but have some friends that work for LIRR and most are scrambling working as many hours as possible for fear of the oncoming strike. The "conspiracy" of delays and track changes are due to the capital projects that get ramped up in the summer, not employee sabotage.
Right...no raises. But they do get "bonuses". Basically a raise.
WHO gets bonuses?! That is such a generic statement that it doesn't even apply. I'm sorry, but the people giving themselves bonuses are NOT LIRR riders. They have car services taking them in and out of Manhattan OR they live in Manhattan.
I was just speaking with a 55 year old man at one of my clients who hasn't received a raise in 10 years. 10 YEARS!! This is not as unheard of as you would like to believe, either.
Good question, although you do NOT vote on school district employee contracts.
True, but I am proposing that when contract negotiations fail between the two parties, a third party negotiator would be warranted.
To me, a strike should NOT occur. A strike occurs when traditional negotiation methods fail. So, maybe it's time to change traditional negotiation methods. I'm totally in favor of the government NOT getting involved. Let the people decide!
True, but I am proposing that when contract negotiations fail between the two parties, a third party negotiator would be warranted.
To me, a strike should NOT occur. A strike occurs when traditional negotiation methods fail. So, maybe it's time to change traditional negotiation methods. I'm totally in favor of the government NOT getting involved. Let the people decide!
Ditto, these dumbells just need to compromise. Get their raise, take a 2% hit to medical. Whoop dee doo. Where's my million dollar consulting fee for that brilliant solution?!
They had to waste the money on those leaflets huh?
Buckthedog, I think you've done a really good job of answering everyone's questions calmly and even civilly arguing with people who have spoken out against the union, but you're also really trying to shift the blame almost entirely onto the MTA.
I think when even the public is calling on the union to make some concessions (what the MTA proposed most recently is NOT a bad deal), it's not really the union's place to fight harder for their demands. The public is the one using and paying for the service - if we're not in support of union members not having to contribute to their healthcare, why would we be in support of them striking to get their way anyhow?
Yet, the MTA printing leaflets to inform their passengers is a "waste"? Come on.
Ditto, these dumbells just need to compromise. Get their raise, take a 2% hit to medical. Whoop dee doo. Where's my million dollar consulting fee for that brilliant solution?!
Why should they compromise? I think the union sees it this way:
The public is little more than freight, and has no voice at the negotiating table. The MTA has its own corruption problems, and does not represent the public in a proactive way.
They can strike legally after 7/21. They'll miss a few days of pay until unemployment kicks in. When it does, they'll be paid to sit at home and barbecue on the patio. When that's over, they're getting a raise.
Fares keep climbing and service declines, but the public pays anyway. The RR is a monopoly and they have no choice.
The public already hates the RR and both sides. But does this matter? I don't think so.
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