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View Poll Results: Are you getting the covid vacination?
Absolutely- as soon as I can 95 60.90%
Nope - I don't trust it 30 19.23%
Maybe - but probably not for 6 months to a year until they know more 26 16.67%
I'm not - but think my over 65 parent should (or someone else) 5 3.21%
Voters: 156. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-10-2021, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Lynbrook
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I still have to wear a mask no matter what...by law*.
Please don't refer to it as a law, it was never presented as a bill or voted on by the state congress, it's a mandate from one man! It should scare people that one man has this kind of power.

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Also, i heard you have to take the vaccine SEVERAL* times a year for it to even be 'effective'.
I don't know where you heard that, I read that a new shot may be needed in a year, but that won't be known until they can test people for antibodies over the course of the year.
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Old 04-11-2021, 07:59 AM
 
Location: New York
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Please don't refer to it as a law, it was never presented as a bill or voted on by the state congress, it's a mandate from one man! It should scare people that one man has this kind of power.



I don't know where you heard that, I read that a new shot may be needed in a year, but that won't be known until they can test people for antibodies over the course of the year.
Why not ? Am I lying ?

Do this as a 'test' if you don't believe me.
Go into the NYC transit system while a police officer is present.
Don't* wear a mask and see if you DONT* get a summons in the amount of $110.
Try it. Be my guest.
It does'nt matter who voted for what the fact of the matter is it IS BEING ENFORCED.
Since you wanna get technical it's a violation section 319 of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S.C. 247d)


Also, i read that recently on healthline.com.

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As COVID-19 vaccinations increase drastically in the United States, experts are keeping a wary eye on the rising number of coronavirus variants.

A recent survey of epidemiologists, virologists, and infectious disease specialists found that many worry new mutations of the coronavirus could render current vaccines useless within a year.

The survey was conducted by the People’s Vaccine Alliance. It polled 77 experts from top academic institutions from 28 countries.

We have 9 months or less before the current vaccines are rendered ineffective.

Fewer than 1 in 8 said the vaccines would remain effective, despite mutations.

And 88 percent said that low vaccine coverage in many countries increases the chances for vaccine-resistant mutations to occur.

“This is a big concern, especially since we are still behind on our vaccine efforts,” said Dr. Purvi Parikh, an allergist and immunologist at NYU Langone Health. “We need there to be 70 to 80 percent of the population vaccinated before we can let our guard down with variants emerging. The virus can still replicate and mutate.”

As of April 5, 167 million vaccine doses have been administered in the United States, which translates to 32 percent of the population.

“The concept of COVID-19 ‘booster shots’ after initial vaccination is a reality we should accept,” added Dr. Robert Glatter, emergency physician at Lenox Hill Hospital in New York.

https://www.healthline.com/health-ne...-in-the-future
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Old 04-11-2021, 08:07 AM
 
Location: New York
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It’s your choice ..but when you get excluded from doing what the vaccinated population can do especially if ny goes whole hog with excelsior pass then you will see the point ....it is either that or spend your time getting tested every 72 hours when you want to do something.

Having spent weeks in the hospital with covid sick as a dog , it is an experience I never want to go through again ...so yeah I will take my chances with vaccination being as unvaccinated didn’t work out so well for my wife and I
Feel free to enlighten me on this 'excelsior pass' you speak of.

Being excluded from what the vaccinated population can do means what exactly ?

Dine in outdoor tents ?

Nightlife, bars, and strip clubs wont be back anytime soon and are destined for failure.
If it was'nt for delivery service the few small businesses that are surviving would be gone too.

Sorry you got hit with a strong covid strain but don't give your self that sense of false hope man.
Read my response to another user directly above this one to see what i mean in detail.
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Old 04-11-2021, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Former LI'er Now Rehoboth Beach, DE
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Feel free to enlighten me on this 'excelsior pass' you speak of.

Being excluded from what the vaccinated population can do means what exactly ?

Dine in outdoor tents ?

Nightlife, bars, and strip clubs wont be back anytime soon and are destined for failure.
If it was'nt for delivery service the few small businesses that are surviving would be gone too.

Sorry you got hit with a strong covid strain but don't give your self that sense of false hope man.
Read my response to another user directly above this one to see what i mean in detail.
This is what Mathjak is talking about and yes, he is 1000% correct. IF the state deems that you need this or as indicated in the link another form of proof, you can/will be denied entrance into events, depending upon the nature of the event.

Just like the "law" that isn't a "law" but essentially is a law, as you beautifully explained. Depending upon the degree to which the state decides to enforce this pass or its' equivalent - it may well become exclusionary. Not commenting on the legality or not just saying, it is kind of like "you have to be so tall to ride this ride," the intent is to protect.

https://covid19vaccine.health.ny.gov/excelsior-pass
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Old 04-11-2021, 03:27 PM
 
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Interesting take on Covid vaccine passes on a federal level.

https://nypost.com/2021/04/11/buttig...he-government/
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Old 04-12-2021, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Former LI'er Now Rehoboth Beach, DE
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Interesting take on Covid vaccine passes on a federal level.

https://nypost.com/2021/04/11/buttig...he-government/
Yep, before you know it will become a court case and wind up be taken up to the Supreme Court and just waste more time, money and resources.
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