Coronavirus in Massachusetts (Washington: university, bill, eat)

[msRB311]

Originally Posted by htfdcolt

Well, looks like my employer is either thinking the Jan 4 mandate will stand, or is contemplating following it regardless. They just asked us to upload our vax certificates by the end of next week.

Last sentence in the communication:

"If you fail to complete the questionnaire in full, you will be deemed as unvaccinated and subject to policies and procedures applicable to unvaccinated employees."

Are you saying they’re making it mandatory that you get the booster ?

[htfdcolt]

Originally Posted by msRB311

Are you saying they’re making it mandatory that you get the booster ?

Not the booster. Just fully vaccinated. The definition of "fully vaccinated" hasn't changed yet, officially.

The communication starts off referencing "Biden's Sept 9, 2021 Executive Order". The only reason I thought it was worth posting this, was I thought the order was being challenged in court, so wasn't a done deal. But it's certainly possible that our company decided to go ahead, regardless.

[msRB311]

Originally Posted by htfdcolt

Not the booster. Just fully vaccinated. The definition of "fully vaccinated" hasn't changed yet, officially.

The communication starts off referencing "Biden's Sept 9, 2021 Executive Order". The only reason I thought it was worth posting this, was I thought the order was being challenged in court, so wasn't a done deal. But it's certainly possible that our company decided to go ahead, regardless.

Got it.

[redplum33]

Originally Posted by tribecavsbrowns

I do want to gently point out that you rebuked bostongymjunkie for having "complaints but zero viable solutions," but now you're literally saying you don't think there's a viable solution, a few posts later.

The difference is that junkie's ideas are half-baked.

Originally Posted by tribecavsbrowns

I'm telling you, this is where the motivation for the backlash comes from. If certain things are not a solution, we'd all do well to move on from them. But instead, we have to listen to people caterwauling about how the solution would be working if people would only cooperate. Salty, "what-if" whining like this is repulsive to people; they hate it. If people won't cooperate with your solution, it's not a solution. Move on.

Moving on, just like junkie's plans, would result in millions of unnecessary deaths as well as tens of millions of unnecessary long covid cases. Not to mention completely destroying the economy.


The "backlash" is due to a lack of common sense.

[htfdcolt]

Originally Posted by redplum33

The difference is that junkie's ideas are half-baked.





Moving on, just like junkie's plans, would result in millions of unnecessary deaths as well as tens of millions of unnecessary long covid cases. Not to mention completely destroying the economy.


The "backlash" is due to a lack of common sense.

Exactly. I believe the "Great Barrington Declaration" was modeled out to result in 2 - 3 million deaths.

People who wanted to keep the economy going without restrictions, don't stop to think that it helps to have your customers be healthy and alive to keep your business viable.

[redplum33]

Originally Posted by htfdcolt

People who wanted to keep the economy going without restrictions, don't stop to think that it helps to have your customers be healthy and alive to keep your business viable.

Employees also.

[redplum33]

This Cleveland guy has not thought this through.

[tribecavsbrowns]

Originally Posted by redplum33

The difference is that junkie's ideas are half-baked.





Moving on, just like junkie's plans, would result in millions of unnecessary deaths as well as tens of millions of unnecessary long covid cases. Not to mention completely destroying the economy.


The "backlash" is due to a lack of common sense.

As if you cared about results at all. You're more concerned with, having been called out for rebuking bostongymjunkie for having "zero viable solutions" and then immediately turning around and admitting there are no viable solutions, coming back and insulting his ideas further instead of doing the courteous thing and either apologizing or just letting it go.

Your motive here is so obviously ego preservation that any results you're projecting into the future, or any interpretation you're making of present results, must be viewed through that lens and taken with an entire shaker of salt. If you ever feel like no one is listening to you, IMO this is why.

[bostongymjunkie]

Originally Posted by redplum33

The difference is that junkie's ideas are half-baked.





Moving on, just like junkie's plans, would result in millions of unnecessary deaths as well as tens of millions of unnecessary long covid cases. Not to mention completely destroying the economy.


The "backlash" is due to a lack of common sense.

Yet you really have no evidence to support this outlandish claim and we've seen what sheltering healthy yuppies and other lower risk in place, and ignoring higher risk people brought us.

[bostongymjunkie]

Originally Posted by htfdcolt

Exactly. I believe the "Great Barrington Declaration" was modeled out to result in 2 - 3 million deaths.

People who wanted to keep the economy going without restrictions, don't stop to think that it helps to have your customers be healthy and alive to keep your business viable.

Because models don't work like that. They are based on assumptions and they can't be generalized to the degree you're referencing and be accurate. Garbage in, garbage out.