Which group has the largest Afro-Latino population in NYC? (Peru: store, bills)

[Relaxx]

Originally Posted by NyWriterdude

Upon doing broad dna tests of Mestizos from Mexico, many of them do have at least some African dna.

Also, different people have different perceptions. Meaning a mixed person might not be perceived to be of African descent by some because there are people who see pretty much just the Blackest people with the Blackest features as Black.

Mariah Carey for example is mixed race. But she looks pretty white. You actually have a lot of people like that.

Originally Posted by nycjowww

True I do find it funny at times that some people assume because a Hispanic look white it means that they don't have black blood lol.

George Lopez for instance is 4% sub saharan African.

Jessica Alba is also more European than Larry David.

Even a white supremacist found out some his ancestors were black.

[Relaxx]

Originally Posted by SuckaFree123456

No offense but to say most Latinos are of African descent is very ignorant. Mexico, Central America, Peru, Argentina, Bolivia and Chile have very few blacks. Even Colombia and Venezuela are mostly Mestizo. Now if you re talking about Brazil, Panama and the Caribbean I will give you that but that is not most by any means.

Actually Colombia and Venezuela have significant black populations. I'd say a large number of mestizos from Colombia and Venezuela have some African ancestry.

As for Bolivia, Guatemala, and Peru they have majority Indian populations.

Even in these countries there are black people too. small, but they are there.

You will find African dna in these places too.

[nycjowww]

Originally Posted by Relaxx

George Lopez for instance is 4% sub saharan African.

Jessica Alba is also more European than Larry David.

Even a white supremacist found out some his ancestors were black.

I bet a lot of racist whites have black blood. I mean America hasn't done a huge variety of test to see which whites escaped the one drop rule from back in the day.

[CorderoAries]

Originally Posted by SuckaFree123456

No offense but to say most Latinos are of African descent is very ignorant. Mexico, Central America, Peru, Argentina, Bolivia and Chile have very few blacks. Even Colombia and Venezuela are mostly Mestizo. Now if you re talking about Brazil, Panama and the Caribbean I will give you that but that is not most by any means.

Here is a controversial topic. Afro-Latinos. Many equate it to Black Latinos. Others see it as Latino Afrodescendientes of all looks. For me, as Latino is an ethnic term, Afro-Latino is such as well. A Latino who has strong African ties in his culture/heritage. Not all Latino Afrodescendientes are Afro-Latino. Many have been completely absorbed by the mainstream. But here is a consideration, many Latinos that are not Afrodescendientes, especially in places like Cuba, adopted African practices, like Santeria, or joining societies like Abakuá and Ékpè. We could argue that many are Afro-Latinos as well. Their culture and identity is definitely Latino with heavy African overtones.

[ConeyGirl52]

Goodness-graceous, when is the human animal going to wise up? :/

The science of DNA has proven the biblical 'Eve' existed, as its principal basis is that everyone on the Earth descended from one original mother. If we are to accept that as a fact, then it would seem everyone on the planet has some degree of African DNA.

Perhaps a large-scale alien invasion will finally get everyone to realise there is only one race - HUMAN, lol.

Or, maybe just basing benefits and other monetary allocations on socio-economics instead of what 'shade' someone is could do the same? *shrugs*

@OP,

If you want to live in a Spanish-speaking community, then find one. Requiring it to also be totally African-looking is just too much self-imposed segregation for my small mind, especially in a city as diverse as NYC.

[CorderoAries]

Originally Posted by SuckaFree123456

No offense but to say most Latinos are of African descent is very ignorant. Mexico, Central America, Peru, Argentina, Bolivia and Chile have very few blacks. Even Colombia and Venezuela are mostly Mestizo. Now if you re talking about Brazil, Panama and the Caribbean I will give you that but that is not most by any means.

No offense or disrespect intended and none (was) taken, but if that's what YOU choose to believe then by all means, go right ahead. What you stated is actually ignorant, and misconstrues the point of what I stated. I suggest that you travel more frequently or at all if you get the chance or are afforded the opportunity. Again, Afrodescendant or of African descent as terms or terminologies of reference are hardly one droppist. They just recognize and signify that one has that ancestry. Also to be an Afrodescendant or of African descent does not mean that one is black or automatically make one black. One can be all of these and still not be black or identify as black or of or as such. And thats where the problematic observations and claims of your posts lies in.

Mexico indeed does have many people of African descent and many blacks or people that identify as such. A lot of Afro Mexicans are significantly mixed with other races but they still exist and number in the several multimillions. Many also live scattered out and intermixed into the "general mainstreamed population". Most Mexicans overall are a mix of Native American, African, Asian, and European ancestry and genes.

Central American nations have plenty of blacks and Afrodescendants. I suggest you travel and read the book Blacks in Central America. Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, and El Salvador all have populations of people that are of African descent. They do in fact exist. Also, even Belize has many people of Afrodescent as well. That even includes people in Belize that are not from the Hispanic black Belizeans or Kriol/Creole group or the Garifuna group or British West Indian descendants in Belize. Many incoming Maya and Spanish speaking groups migrating from other nearby nations into Belize often have African ancestry in varying degrees.

Peru has very many blacks and Afro Peruvians. In fact the amount of blacks in Peru alone outnumbers the entire population of Trinidad & Tobago alone, and Trinidad is not even fully or necessarily majority black. George Zimmerman's mother has Afro Peruvian roots.

Argentina has over 2 million Afro-descendants and possibly even more. Again, just because people peddle the nonsense of erasure doesn't mean that they are few or don't exist.

Bolivia does have many blacks. Estimates range from 160,000 to 2 million.

Chile has many people of Afrodescent. The history of Afro Chileans gets quite complex due to migration and settlement patterns and territorial jurisdiction of the region that is now Chile.

You state that Colombia and Venezuela are mostly mestizo, but what do you mean or what does that exactly mean??

Mestizo just means mixed race. Most mestizos have three or more racial ancestries or lineages running in their veins and that usually includes black African ancestry in their respective mixes.

Colombia's Afro-Colombian population is more than 35% of Colombia's population. And not to mention that probably between 50% to 70% of Colombia's population overall has African ancestry in varying degrees.

More than 80% of Venezuela's population has African ancestry in varying degrees. So most people claiming the mestizo label will be mulattoes or they will be a hybrid blend of African, Native American, and European. Hugo Chavez acknowledged that he has African ancestry.

Venezuela is said to be between 10% to 20% Afro Venezuelan.

Ecuador is more than 25% Afro-Ecuadorian and independent researchers and ethnolingusts and anthropologists have confirmed this.

Uruguay is as much 25% Afro Uruguayan, and many Afrodescendants are speaking up about having their numbers counted.

Brazil is mostly white identified. Only about 6% to 10% of Brazil identifies or classifies itself or is categorized as "black". Mixed race identified individuals compete demographically and numerically with those that are identified as white in terms of census demographic numbers.

Panama is mostly mixed race. Panama is also one of the most racially and ethnically diverse places ever. According to the 2010 Census for the Republic of Panama, only 9.2% of the population was categorized as black or Afrodescendant or some form of such. Another addendum tabulation for Panama said that blacks in Panama makeup somewhere between 17% to 18% of Panama's population.

I believe that Afro-Panamanian population in Panama constitutes at least sonewhere between 25% to 40% of the Republic of Panama. That also falls in line with historical settlement patterns and demographic patterns of that nation if one looks at the historical records.

EVERY NATION AND REGION IN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE HAS PEOPLE OF AFRICAN DESCENT AND ANCESTRY.

Hell, even USA probably has an abundant majority population of people that has African ancestry in their family trees. USA is very mixed and people have lived on many aspects and dimensions of the color line etc. I'm pretty sure most U.S. Americans regardless of race that took DNA tests or did accurate genealogy on their family tree would find some black African ancestors in their ancestral lineages.

And again, remember that having African ancestry does not automatically make one black.

[CorderoAries]

People be acting so brand new about Latinidad. -_-

[Bronxguyanese]

Ecuador national soccer team is black.

[CorderoAries]

Originally Posted by Bronxguyanese

Ecuador national soccer team is black.

Yep! This is very true. Ecuador is like over 25% black. Ecuador is a lot more diverse than people realize.

[SuckaFree123456]

Originally Posted by CorderoAries

No offense or disrespect intended and none (was) taken, but if that's what YOU choose to believe then by all means, go right ahead. What you stated is actually ignorant, and misconstrues the point of what I stated. I suggest that you travel more frequently or at all if you get the chance or are afforded the opportunity. Again, Afrodescendant or of African descent as terms or terminologies of reference are hardly one droppist. They just recognize and signify that one has that ancestry. Also to be an Afrodescendant or of African descent does not mean that one is black or automatically make one black. One can be all of these and still not be black or identify as black or of or as such. And thats where the problematic observations and claims of your posts lies in.

Mexico indeed does have many people of African descent and many blacks or people that identify as such. A lot of Afro Mexicans are significantly mixed with other races but they still exist and number in the several multimillions. Many also live scattered out and intermixed into the "general mainstreamed population". Most Mexicans overall are a mix of Native American, African, Asian, and European ancestry and genes.

Central American nations have plenty of blacks and Afrodescendants. I suggest you travel and read the book Blacks in Central America. Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, and El Salvador all have populations of people that are of African descent. They do in fact exist. Also, even Belize has many people of Afrodescent as well. That even includes people in Belize that are not from the Hispanic black Belizeans or Kriol/Creole group or the Garifuna group or British West Indian descendants in Belize. Many incoming Maya and Spanish speaking groups migrating from other nearby nations into Belize often have African ancestry in varying degrees.

Peru has very many blacks and Afro Peruvians. In fact the amount of blacks in Peru alone outnumbers the entire population of Trinidad & Tobago alone, and Trinidad is not even fully or necessarily majority black. George Zimmerman's mother has Afro Peruvian roots.

Argentina has over 2 million Afro-descendants and possibly even more. Again, just because people peddle the nonsense of erasure doesn't mean that they are few or don't exist.

Bolivia does have many blacks. Estimates range from 160,000 to 2 million.

Chile has many people of Afrodescent. The history of Afro Chileans gets quite complex due to migration and settlement patterns and territorial jurisdiction of the region that is now Chile.

You state that Colombia and Venezuela are mostly mestizo, but what do you mean or what does that exactly mean??

Mestizo just means mixed race. Most mestizos have three or more racial ancestries or lineages running in their veins and that usually includes black African ancestry in their respective mixes.

Colombia's Afro-Colombian population is more than 35% of Colombia's population. And not to mention that probably between 50% to 70% of Colombia's population overall has African ancestry in varying degrees.

More than 80% of Venezuela's population has African ancestry in varying degrees. So most people claiming the mestizo label will be mulattoes or they will be a hybrid blend of African, Native American, and European. Hugo Chavez acknowledged that he has African ancestry.

Venezuela is said to be between 10% to 20% Afro Venezuelan.

Ecuador is more than 25% Afro-Ecuadorian and independent researchers and ethnolingusts and anthropologists have confirmed this.

Uruguay is as much 25% Afro Uruguayan, and many Afrodescendants are speaking up about having their numbers counted.

Brazil is mostly white identified. Only about 6% to 10% of Brazil identifies or classifies itself or is categorized as "black". Mixed race identified individuals compete demographically and numerically with those that are identified as white in terms of census demographic numbers.

Panama is mostly mixed race. Panama is also one of the most racially and ethnically diverse places ever. According to the 2010 Census for the Republic of Panama, only 9.2% of the population was categorized as black or Afrodescendant or some form of such. Another addendum tabulation for Panama said that blacks in Panama makeup somewhere between 17% to 18% of Panama's population.

I believe that Afro-Panamanian population in Panama constitutes at least sonewhere between 25% to 40% of the Republic of Panama. That also falls in line with historical settlement patterns and demographic patterns of that nation if one looks at the historical records.

EVERY NATION AND REGION IN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE HAS PEOPLE OF AFRICAN DESCENT AND ANCESTRY.

Hell, even USA probably has an abundant majority population of people that has African ancestry in their family trees. USA is very mixed and people have lived on many aspects and dimensions of the color line etc. I'm pretty sure most U.S. Americans regardless of race that took DNA tests or did accurate genealogy on their family tree would find some black African ancestors in their ancestral lineages.

And again, remember that having African ancestry does not automatically make one black.

I highlighted the part of Mestizos. If you do not know what a mestizo is than there is no point in arguing with you. A mestizo is someone who is of Caucasian and Indigenous blood just like a Mulatto is someone mixed with Caucasian and African blood. You are just trying to too hard to make Latinos black and I have been all over Latin America and the only places I saw blacks in Mexico were in Veracruz and Guerrero and in the grand scheme they are only 1% of the population. I honestly did not see any blacks in Argentina or Chile so who knows where they live in those countries.