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Old 07-16-2014, 06:06 PM
 
Location: War World!
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I personally had no problems while in South America, nor did any American I know who went to South America have problems. I've known my share of people who went to Mexico and loved it. I've known Americans who worked in the Middle East and overall enjoyed it (Dubai).

The Americans I know who worked in India loved it.

You're attempting to rationalized hatred and xenophobia. It's like a little kid who gets caught breaking something,who then tries to say the other little kid did it too.

KEYWORD: WENT, VISITED, WORKED. They're NOT LIVING there big difference. And I guaranteed you if they did live there almost if not all of them would be dying to get back to the U.S.. And don't give me this xenophobic/racist remarks because I'm not. I know immigrants personally who LOVE this country and will tell you first thing how happy they are to be here. I don't have anything against immigrants but there is a fine land with a lot of this political correctness mess that's going on. Obama is proposing 3 billion to spend on illegal immigrants and have their college paid for when natural born citizens of this nation like myself, like you and plenty on here have to bust our butts to get. They can send 500 million to Syrian rebels to kill and mutilate each other but they can never spend 500 million on fixing many of the problems HERE. That's all I am saying.
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Old 07-16-2014, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Gods country
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Leaving aside the damage that illegals do to wages and jobs we can all agree that they negatively effect the QOL of all Americans. Just think about how this happens in your daily life. From the seat on the train, parking spot, wait in the emergency room, wear and tear on the infrastructure, use of police, sanitation, EMS, and fire service. Guess who pays for that?
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Old 07-16-2014, 06:53 PM
 
Location: New York State
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Leaving aside the damage that illegals do to wages and jobs we can all agree that they negatively effect the QOL of all Americans. Just think about how this happens in your daily life. From the seat on the train, parking spot, wait in the emergency room, wear and tear on the infrastructure, use of police, sanitation, EMS, and fire service. Guess who pays for that?
I'm amazed there are simpletons out there that actually defend illegals.

What part of "illegal" do they not understand?
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Old 07-16-2014, 07:00 PM
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Now we can request to show an ID when you vote, right?
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Old 07-16-2014, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I wasn't going to respond to you because it's obvious that you know little about the facts regarding immigration and the economy.
Sure you know everything! The New York Times? Hardly an unbiased source of information.

Last edited by Ex New Yorker; 07-16-2014 at 08:11 PM..
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Old 07-16-2014, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I've got an idea Ol' Bronx Buddy, Ol'Pal. Why don't we just tax and regulate every corporation into oblivion? Yeah, that's right let's punish those evil bastards! Then we can blame them for moving overseas. Those evil bastards! We'll fix 'em. Let's just see how that creates jobs and helps the tens of millions that work for them. Oh I get it we can all just work for the benevolent government. Ah! But where will the benevolent government get it's money from once the private sector is all but dead? They gonna print it? Yeah, they can give it all away. We can all be millionaires, no one will have to work. If you despise capitalism so much, why don't you just move to a Socialist or Communist country? There's plenty to choose from. I mean you love that type of system, but you don't choose to live there. Why is that? Is it because those countries are already bankrupt? Is that why millions are leaving trying to get into this country? You can't get much living off of others there now can you? You'd much rather sit on your dead ass and live off of everyone else. That's why you're here, that's why you vote for Democrats. After all there's more of other people's wealth that you can get your greedy little hands on here. That is until people like you succeed in bankrupting this country. Then we can all be equally miserable controlled by your benevolent government who now has no money to take care of anything or anyone as there would be no private sector left to support it. Either you're just another Left wing hypocrite who hates everything that this country stands for yet chooses to live here and then complain that you're not getting enough. Or you're a "Limousine Liberal" who has amassed a fortune and are trying to cleanse your conscience by finding ways to spend other people's money but never a dime of your own. I don't know which is worse?

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No other country on Earth allows foreigners to come in illegally, work illegally, steal jobs from it’s citizens, break laws, commit crimes (serious crimes!), evade taxes, etc. etc. etc. And there are no rational reasons why we should either. There are only political reasons, and they aren’t rational. There's a war coming unless the gov't stops the flow and sends them ALL back to their home.
I don't know who came up with that quote (it's not mine), but it bears repeating.
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Old 07-16-2014, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Leaving aside the damage that illegals do to wages and jobs we can all agree that they negatively effect the QOL of all Americans. Just think about how this happens in your daily life. From the seat on the train, parking spot, wait in the emergency room, wear and tear on the infrastructure, use of police, sanitation, EMS, and fire service. Guess who pays for that?
They don't care who has to pay for it as long as they get theirs. To them the American taxpayer is an endless resource of money that is their's for the taking. They can't think that far ahead as to what will happen when they have succeeded in bankrupting this nation. They think that it can never happen, well it already is happening.
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Old 07-16-2014, 08:31 PM
 
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A group has put together over 200 protests a cross the country on Saturday, July 19 to protest against the illegal immigrants being shipped all across our country, including NYC.

There is a protest in NYC from 12-4pm Saturday at 47th street and 1st avenue. I have never been politically active about anything and certainly never protested, but I feel so strongly about this issue, I think I will be attending. Just hope I don't come across as that Rachel maddow idolizing cecily martin.
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Old 07-16-2014, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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Not that the GOP is much better but Obama and company basically caused this latest surge by giving mini amnesties (Dream act, etc) and relaxing enforcement. Word spread and they came.
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Old 07-17-2014, 05:04 AM
 
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Either open the borders up and wave the white flag or enforce those coming here illegally. Though I think we are a few decades too late on these issues. It's like trying to close the barn door after the horse has bolted. Ten states now give drivers licenses to people regardless of immigration status and still more have introduced such a bill, with New York state being one of them. It's not like that will make every uninsured driver seek out an insurance agent. But it does give them another valid ID in this country. I think people have lost their minds. And then on the other side of the coin, they are very, very strict on tourist visas from 3rd world countries. Those trying to come legally get the fees, waits, and denials if poor. I find that so hypocritical when we are rewarding those that came illegally and then be so hard nosed to those trying to come legally, even if for just a short time.
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