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Originally Posted by randomperson2
The fact is, if you treat people like garbage for decades, crowd them together in substandard conditions, offer them substandard housing, provide substandard services generally, it will have long-term effects on those people. Those store clerks who don't give you good service probably only rarely GET good service. If no one's taught you your own value, you won't value the people around you in your community.
You have to decide if the positives--like helping to sustain a majority-black neighborhood that's survived the worst the U.S. could throw at it--outweigh the negatives--all the various inconveniences and unpleasantnesses of living in an underserved neighborhood. The calculus is different for each individual. If you move further west (FDB is indeed about the dividing line), you will find nicer neighborhoods. You will also find gentrification much further underway in terms of pricing out the long-term residents. But if you "love the neighborhood," then why are you worried about what random jerks on a site say about it?
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to randomperson2 again.
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Originally Posted by HellUpInHarlem
Harlem has come a loooooong way. Sephora is on its way. PC Richard just opened. Shake Shack is coming. There are ratchet pockets in Harlem and if you stay the hell out of em, you’ll be aight. The old timers who are anti ghey and anti gentrification must despise Harlem’s restaurant row on 8th Avenue then. Nothing they can do about it, and should shut their trap and not complain. When Harlem was cheap, they shoulda bought in. Point. Blank. Period.
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*sigh*
The people with the most indignation also tend to be the most ignorant of history.
People didn't buy in Harlem because banks wouldn't lend to them to buy in Harlem. It's really just that simple. It's not a matter of personal choice or responsibility. While social programs were going on all over the country to give jobs and homes to White people, those same programs, and the bank money backing those home purchases were simply not available for Black people. They were DEFINITELY unavailable for redlined districts like Harlem.
That's it.
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Originally Posted by QueensCeltic
My company is rather famous, full of extremely well educated people (including myself) that quietly supported Trump regarding the negative impact globalization has had on our economy. I've seen first hand, up close and personal a once great American company off shore thousands of American jobs to India (not just IT sector). My company made the largest off shore deal in American history back around 2008. It was disgusting. Executive mgt ran to the hills shortly thereafter with their winnings, meanwhile the company is bleeding today.
Lots and lots of white collar folks voted for Trump on this one issue alone.
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If you think Trump has actual answers to that problem, you're dumb.
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Originally Posted by Shoshanarose
Is Trump really keeping more jobs in America??
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Quite obviously not.
As for the OP, not sure why you care what the classists/racists on this site think about Harlem. If you've got your own experience, based on your own ideals, just go with that. It's a neighborhood under transition. There's rich history.. there's also crime. There are some great people from before.. some great people moving in now. There are also *******s from before, and new *******s moving in.
I would question why you'd want to live in Harlem, if you're seeking a neighborhood that's already transitioned to being more like other areas of the City, when you could just move to one of those other areas.. But if you do enjoy Harlem's unique charm, then who cares what these people think?
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