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Old 08-15-2011, 07:09 PM
 
Location: A Yankee in northeast TN
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It's not how awful the kids today are, it's about how awful their parents are. You know, the generation we raised.
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Old 08-17-2011, 03:15 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Fortunately, I think the backlash is starting the other way...thank god.
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Old 08-17-2011, 07:11 AM
 
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This was a great article.

I really don't know any "bad" kids, to be honest. I mean, there is the usual variety of personalities. Same with adults, though....I know plenty of adults I don't care for.

It may be an unpopular opinion, but I love teenagers. They're so full of life, so passionate. They feel the world is theirs to explore. It's great to hear their opinions of the world as they enter it.
I agree! And I think a lot of adults forget that teenagers are STILL children that are learning HOW to become adults. Just because they are adult-sized does not mean they can yet reason
as well as an adult. They don't have the experience and they are going to make mistakes; a LOT of them!

Also wanted to add that the self absorption exhibited in teenagers is a normal developmental stage that ALL teenagers go through.
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Old 08-17-2011, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Armsanta Sorad
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The people of the article does have a point.
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Old 08-17-2011, 08:34 PM
 
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The authors Strauss and Howe say when the next generation or the current babies being born come of age, they will strike older adults as being "well-educated, well-behaved, risk-adverse, and naive."

It's in paragraph 6.
Lifecourse Associates: Where We Are Today (http://www.lifecourse.com/insight/where-we-are-today.html - broken link)

The authors have a generational theory about how history repeats itself and how the babies born during these times have certain characteristic traits to them. It's described by the events that occur and the people's feelings about themselves and the world around them.

So, the current babies being born belong to the Artist generation, according to Strauss and Howe. Previously, the past Artist generations, during their teenage and young adulthood years have been described as being unadventurous, cautious, docile and well behaved. An example would be the Silent generation born from 1925-1942. They came of age during the 1950s as what was then described as being the most well behaved and obedient youths in American history. They also had the lowest rates of drug and alcohol usage in high school, as well low rates of suicide and violence. So, the authors predict that the current babies may be like the Silent generation.
Archetypes (http://fourthturning.com/html/archetypes_3.html - broken link)

Today's Millennial generation belong to the Hero type. Archetypes (http://fourthturning.com/html/archetypes_2.html - broken link) The GI generation are an example of Heros. The authors found that Millennials and the GIs share many characteristics of being optimism, team oriented, and coming of age during increasing protection of children.

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Old 08-18-2011, 06:40 AM
 
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The authors Strauss and Howe say when the next generation or the current babies being born come of age, they will strike older adults as being "well-educated, well-behaved, risk-adverse, and naive."

It's in paragraph 6.
Lifecourse Associates: Where We Are Today (http://www.lifecourse.com/insight/where-we-are-today.html - broken link)

The authors have a generational theory about how history repeats itself and how the babies born during these times have certain characteristic traits to them. It's described by the events that occur and the people's feelings about themselves and the world around them.

So, the current babies being born belong to the Artist generation, according to Strauss and Howe. Previously, the past Artist generations, during their teenage and young adulthood years have been described as being unadventurous, cautious, docile and well behaved. An example would be the Silent generation born from 1925-1942. They came of age during the 1950s as what was then described as being the most well behaved and obedient youths in American history. They also had the lowest rates of drug and alcohol usage in high school, as well low rates of suicide and violence. So, the authors predict that the current babies may be like the Silent generation.
Archetypes (http://fourthturning.com/html/archetypes_3.html - broken link)

Today's Millennial generation belong to the Hero type. Archetypes (http://fourthturning.com/html/archetypes_2.html - broken link) The GI generation are an example of Heros. The authors found that Millennials and the GIs share many characteristics of being optimism, team oriented, and coming of age during increasing protection of children.

Hmmm. Interesting! Is that from a textbook? If so, what course is it for? Sounds like something I'd really sink my teeth into.
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Old 08-19-2011, 07:15 AM
 
Location: Eastern time zone
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Hmmm. Interesting! Is that from a textbook? If so, what course is it for? Sounds like something I'd really sink my teeth into.
I wouldn't normally cite Wikipedia, but it's good for a brief overview. Strauss and Howe's book is called Generations.

Strauss-Howe generational theory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 08-19-2011, 10:24 AM
 
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People have been saying this since time immemorial. I'd look up the quote from Socrates or Plato (can't remember which one right now), but I'm feeling kind of lazy. I've posted it before.
Here it is:

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"The young people of today think of nothing but themselves. They have
no reverence for parents or old age. They are impatient of all
restraint. They talk as if they alone knew everything and what passes
for wisdom with us is foolishness with them. As for girls, they are
forward, immodest and unwomanly in speech, behaviour and dress."

-Socrates
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Old 08-19-2011, 07:12 PM
 
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Well, statistically, teenagers today are better behaved than teenagers were 30-40 years ago. Drug, abortion, pregnancy rates, sexual activity and alcohol usage have fallen among teenagers since then.
Why is falling sexual activity a good thing? We aren't mammals anymore?
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Old 08-19-2011, 07:15 PM
 
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The people of the article does have a point.
The people (plural) of the article DO have a point.

Yes I know it is ridiculously obnoxious to be the grammar police. But in my defense the kids and I recently watched Limony Snicket's a Series of Unfortunate Events in which Glen Close plays a character who is crazy about grammar. So my brain is stuck there.
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