Top 10 reasons not to move to PHX (Phoenix: high school, to live in)

[Pretzelogik]

It is 47 degrees there right now...what's yours?

[mistygrl092]

Originally Posted by Xica_da_Silva

I stand on my original point, mistygrl092. Do you really implicitly trust everything that you hear from a major news media source, without considering how accurate that information may be? Weapons of mass destruction, anyone? The following article may not be completely accurate either, but at least it asks some of the questions we should all be asking whenever we are being spoon-fed 'information' from our media:

PolitiFact Texas | McCain says Phoenix is the second kidnapping capital in the world

You can stand by your point all you like. I am not citing some nutty website, rather ABC News.

Oh, and it was the lies of Bushco that were reported by the media, but then let us not forget who OWNS the media.

There is no incentive or reason for ABC news to lie about this. Not so with WMD (if the reporters wanted to keep their jobs).

[EnicAZ]

It is true by the numbers on the kidnappings. Something I don't like about it is the cost to us taxpayers to have to be solving and dealing with drug violence throughout the Phoenix area. It is very expensive, and it pulls away money from other areas.

[Ponderosa]

Originally Posted by mistygrl092

Well, thank you, but if you go back and re-read the posts, you will see why I thought you were referring to me.

I brought up the kidnappings (which is the truth) as I thought it was a bit silly to be concerned over air quality (which isn't even that bad) and then someone decided to say I was spreading rumors over the kidnappings.

At any rate, no worries.

I think it is a bit silly to be concerned about kidnappings too, probably more so than air quality. I mean just living in a city exposes one to higher levels of pollution. Unless one is involved in the drug or human smuggling trade or a spousal custody dispute, they or their family would have no higher risk of being kidnapped than in any town in the country which would be extremely low. Honestly, I thought you were being sarcastic when you posted your kidnapping post. You, as a resident, certainly know that the whole truth is that "ordinary" people have no elevated risk of being kidnapped in Phoenix.

[mistygrl092]

Originally Posted by EnicAZ

It is true by the numbers on the kidnappings. Something I don't like about it is the cost to us taxpayers to have to be solving and dealing with drug violence throughout the Phoenix area. It is very expensive, and it pulls away money from other areas.

Yeah, and if they would build that big fence, we wouldn't have such a big problem. Just why doesn't this happen?

[mistygrl092]

Originally Posted by Ponderosa

I think it is a bit silly to be concerned about kidnappings too, probably more so than air quality. I mean just living in a city exposes one to higher levels of pollution. Unless one is involved in the drug or human smuggling trade or a spousal custody dispute, they or their family would have no higher risk of being kidnapped than in any town in the country which would be extremely low. You, as a resident, certainly know that the whole truth is that "ordinary" people have no elevated risk of being kidnapped in Phoenix.

Nooooooooooo, as ABC News reported, Phoenix is #2 in the world. That does raise the odds.

Did you not read that link I posted?

[Ponderosa]

Originally Posted by mistygrl092

Nooooooooooo, as ABC News reported, Phoenix is #2 in the world. That does raise the odds.

Did you not read that link I posted?

I've seen the ABC news stories on this and all the other news outlets as well. It was explained to you earlier that the high numbers come from the practice of charging one count of kidnapping for each person held in a drop house when the drop house is busted. I had jury duty for a case where a coyote was being charged with 14 counts of kidnapping all stemming from the same raid of a house! The prosecution was contending that the illegals were being held while relatives were called and pressured to pay money to have them released. I did not get selected so don't know how it came out.

So you are either being sarcastic or are terribly misinformed. In either case, it is not worth debating the kidnapping risk with you when everyone knows better.

When people persist in repeating things they know are misleading or false they cross the line, in my estimation, from being a raging malcontent to being a lowly troll.

[mistygrl092]

Originally Posted by Ponderosa

I've seen the ABC news stories on this and all the other news outlets as well. It was explained to you earlier that the high numbers come from the practice of charging one count of kidnapping for each person held in a drop house when the drop house is busted. I had jury duty for a case where a coyote was being charged with 14 counts of kidnapping all stemming from the same raid of a house! The prosecution was contending that the illegals were being held while relatives were called and pressured to pay money to have them released.

So you are either being sarcastic or are terribly misinformed. In either case, it is not worth debating the kidnapping risk with you when everyone knows better.

I am not being sarcastic, but here is what was said. How do you interpret this and what inside track do you have that others don't seem to? Please provide me with the data you speak of. And that does not include anecdotal data.

"We're in the eye of the storm," Phoenix Police Chief Andy Anderson told ABC News of the violent crimes and ruthless tactics spurred by Mexico's drug cartels that have expanded business across the border. "If it doesn't stop here, if we're not able to fix it here and get it turned around, it will go across the nation," he said.

[Ponderosa]

Originally Posted by Ponderosa

When people persist in repeating things they know are misleading or false they cross the line, in my estimation, from being a raging malcontent to being a lowly troll.

I edited my post to include this after you quoted me.

[Xica_da_Silva]

Originally Posted by mistygrl092

You can stand by your point all you like. I am not citing some nutty website, rather ABC News.

Oh, and it was the lies of Bushco that were reported by the media, but then let us not forget who OWNS the media.

There is no incentive or reason for ABC news to lie about this. Not so with WMD (if the reporters wanted to keep their jobs).

Of course they have an incentive, and it's really nothing new. Corporate tv media make money from advertising; the more sensational the news, the more people watch it, consequences be damned.