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Old 09-07-2010, 05:08 AM
 
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The left is anti Christian conservatives and the intolerant bigoted and reactionary mammon worshiping belifs that Christian conservatives espouces.
Being Christian is about being oppenminded and speaking out for the rights of the poor and the social outcasts and take their intressts and wellbeing att heart above that of mammon but instead right wing chrisitians condems the outcasts.
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Old 09-07-2010, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Separation of Church and State means that the government cannot set up a national church or religion. It doesn't mean that people cannot share their religion with others.
There is a huge difference between 'sharing' one's beliefs and attempting to force others to live by YOUR beliefs by enacting them into law.
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Old 09-07-2010, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I consider Religion to be between a person and their God, or not. I object to using politics to enhance ANY religion by using the secular power and money of the state.

Religion does not need Caesar and Caesar does not need religion. Keep them separate at all times.
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Old 09-07-2010, 09:06 AM
 
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They sure seem to LOVE Islam though.
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Old 09-07-2010, 09:07 AM
 
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There is a huge difference between 'sharing' one's beliefs and attempting to force others to live by YOUR beliefs by enacting them into law.
Like Sharia? Like that? Why does the left wholeheartedly support Islam when that's what they do? They bring their laws to other country's cultures.
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Old 09-07-2010, 09:11 AM
 
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Like Sharia? Like that? Why does the left wholeheartedly support Islam when that's what they do? They bring their laws to other country's cultures.
Liberals are in a Catch 22 when it comes to Islam. First, they don't want a religious system (especially a rigid one like Sharia) to be imposed on a secular society. Second, being good liberals, opposing Islam also means you're a racist, and we know how liberals try very very hard to be as anti-racist as humanly possible. I had enough conversations with Europeans living in my area and they tell me that they hate the fact the Muslims want Sharia in their countires but they can't do anything about it because opposing it is classed as racism because almost all the Muslims are non-European so you're a racist if you contradict them Talk about a conundrum but hey, they dug themselves into that mess
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Old 09-07-2010, 09:15 AM
 
Location: An absurd world.
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There is all sorts of recurring ignorance in this thread.
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Old 09-07-2010, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Like Sharia? Like that? Why does the left wholeheartedly support Islam when that's what they do? They bring their laws to other country's cultures.
I would also be objecting to Sharia laws were I aware it were happening where it would affect me. In this country, laws and religion are to remain totally separate. However, I've yet to see anything reliable indicating that. And I object to being characterized as 'accepting' it.
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Old 09-07-2010, 09:27 AM
 
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The ultra left make up a very small minority and hold few positions of power. You are seriously going to gripe about them when the majority of people in positions of power and influence are very conservative. Get a reality check please! Even President Obama is conservative for a Democrat.
Complete garbage.

The ultra left have a great amount of power. California for instance is filled with extremist who have continuously removed property rights and individual rights in the name of their crusades.

And Obama being "conservative", that is laughable. His entire HC bill is radical left, his continued push for cap and trade is far left, his bailing out and ownership of GM is far left (notice while Bush was wrong to bail out the companies, his actions were loans, not essentially a buyout and ownership of the company).

Obama's stimulus was nothing short of a massive increase in government projects, putting the majority of its money into government ran facilities.

Obama consistently pushes for heavy taxes on private business and demands for conformity from them through HC and like programs.

Obama has consistently stated that some people make too much and should be capped.

Obama has stated the constitution is flawed, that it restricts the government too much from what it can do for the people. If that isn't radical left, then up is down and stupid just became smart.

Seriously, your claim would be hilarious if you were not so confused and believed it to be truth.

You can't spin that garbage to the self educated, only to the programed elite who suckle at the teet of government expansion.

The left is radical and demands conformity, infringes on individual liberties and has its ultimate goal to disregard this nations constitutional protections so it can rewrite them to serve its ideal of what society should be.

Now I am not saying that the far right can not be just as oppressive, but to believe the far left has no power, has had no influence and has had no effect on our society, is not simply misinformed, it is completely delusional.
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Old 09-07-2010, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Liberals are in a Catch 22 when it comes to Islam. First, they don't want a religious system (especially a rigid one like Sharia) to be imposed on a secular society. Second, being good liberals, opposing Islam also means you're a racist, and we know how liberals try very very hard to be as anti-racist as humanly possible. I had enough conversations with Europeans living in my area and they tell me that they hate the fact the Muslims want Sharia in their countires but they can't do anything about it because opposing it is classed as racism because almost all the Muslims are non-European so you're a racist if you contradict them Talk about a conundrum but hey, they dug themselves into that mess
Most ridiculous, stereotypical post in this whole thread.
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