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Faulty argument. Just because someone is born a certain way does not mean that society must accept it.
YOUR argument is faulty. Of course society should accept anyone that is born in any way, as long as that doesn't cause harm to someone else. Homosexuals aren't hurting anyone. Pedophiles do. And the simple fact that you are comparing them to each other shows your abject ignorance on the subject.
Just admit that this is something you do not (and cannot understand), just as I do. I am not homosexual, but I accept that homosexuals were born that way and that's the end of it.
Being gay is not a lifestyle choice, like being "goth" or being "punk". I'm sure that people don't wake up one day and say "You know what, I'm going to be attracted to men from now on".
Just admit that this is something you do not (and cannot understand), just as I do. I am not homosexual, but I accept that homosexuals were born that way and that's the end of it.
Being gay is not a lifestyle choice, like being "goth" or being "punk". I'm sure that people don't wake up one day and say "You know what, I'm going to be attracted to men from now on".
YOUR argument is faulty. Of course society should accept anyone that is born in any way, as long as that doesn't cause harm to someone else. Homosexuals aren't hurting anyone. Pedophiles do. And the simple fact that you are comparing them to each other shows your abject ignorance on the subject.
It seems I was not clear. Let me explain my post's intent:
OP is stating that society's acceptance of homosexuality mandates future acceptance of other things like pedophilia, incest, bestiality, and necrophilia, using the argument that being born predisposed for a certain behavior means society must accept the behavior.
I am refuting that as a faulty argument. Accepting homosexuality does not logically entail future acceptance of these other things.
I am not equating homosexuality with pedophilia or the other practices.
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I personally do not believe that people are "born" homosexual, it's just a feeling I have, I believe that there is a cause for homosexuality. If people are born gay, does that mean that pedophiles are born to be pedophiles? Does this also mean that people who are sexually attracted to their blood related members are born to have incest or are people born to be sexually attracted to animals or corpses? If people start thinking that, does this mean we'll have to accept people who molest children or people who have sex with animals? Right now those sexual thoughts except for homosexuality are considered to be mental disorders, sexual disorders and deviant. Homosexuality used to be considered sick and deviant as well, why isn't it anymore?
Give me an explanation as to WHY you think homosexuals are born homosexual and why you are so certain that people are born as homosexuals.
My wife doesn't like steak. My daughter doesn't like pepper. My son will eat anything that doesn't move....or moves slow enough for him to eat. Hey! That's me. The only thing I don't like is rutabagas. Rutabagas make me puke. Even the smell of a rutabaga is gross. I have no reason I can think of to make me dislike rutabagas so much. Oh yeah, my daughter can't eat an apricot. They make her gag. Guess she was born that way.
It seems I was not clear. Let me explain my post's intent:
OP is stating that society's acceptance of homosexuality mandates future acceptance of other things like pedophilia, incest, bestiality, and necrophilia, using the argument that being born predisposed for a certain behavior means society must accept the behavior.
I am refuting that as a faulty argument. Accepting homosexuality does not logically entail future acceptance of these other things.
I am not equating homosexuality with pedophilia or the other practices.
Then, please accept my apologies for misconstruing your post.
I came to the born gay(sort of) conclusion since I have yet to see a gay person become straight. There are stories of gays going to pastors to help them get rid of their "sinful" sexual desires, but at the same breath they still have gay thoughts. Plus there are cases of animals being involve in homosexual activity. Since we humans are biologically animals too, then that means we are not immune. Even the mentally challenged can have gay urges.
Also I don't necessarily believe someone is born gay, but rather a person's sexual orientation is determined at an early age when the person develops butterflies for another human being or conscious enough to know the difference between male and female. As humans when we're born, are brains aren't developed enough to know what we like or prefer. I think between the ages 5 and 12 is when most humans know what sex they exclusively like or like best.
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A good friend of mine is a gay man who was raised in a VERY fundamental Christian home. When he came out to his parents, they disowned him, kicked him out of the house and still to this day refuse to speak to him. He was 15 when he came out. He's 28 now and he and his long time partner have a beautiful little girl who will never know her grandparents. The last time he went to his parents house, his father ignored his pleas to talk and backed over him with his truck and drove away without a word.
Yes, my friend obviously chose this.
So who should society pity the most? The man who can accept his own flesh and blood as a human being, or his son who has found a male lover? I vote with the former.
Any thread comparing homosexuality to incest, beastiality, and necrophilia is worth watching. I'm gonna fix me a drink now.
Right there with you!
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