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The OP must not have done a search.
There are women's meetings, bikers meetings, teen meetings, gay meetings, etc. There are morning meetings, lunchtime meetings, after work meetings, evening meetings, midnight meetings, etc.
I'd rather people be at meetings than in bars, drunk.
Should judged have the option to order rehab? I do not disagree with you about different programs help different people
I don't see why not...of course, some people have to work and if they're working they might be better served by attending either the CBT or REBT groups I mentioned. At any rate, I think medication should be mandatory while attending.
It was the Episcopal and Methodist churches that helped AA get started more than Baptists.
Since 1935 about 5 million people have got and stayed sober in AA.
Treatment for diabetes and cancer don't work. If a diabetic or cancer patient could cure their disease by spending an hour or two a week at a meeting they would do it.
No, it was the Oxford group (Now if that has its roots in the Episcopal and Methodist Churches you're right).
Statement two - how would we know? Everything is anonymous? And people are not always honest yunno.
My mother is a diabetic and doing just fine. My friend had cancer and is doing just fine. Both had medical treatment.
Oh, and I was using the Baptists as an example as I think they are somewhat radical. My mother was brought up one and everything is a sin - playing cards, dancing, etc.
Cheap shot (gee, who woulda thunk it), but then again, just how do you think I know so much? I haven't invested years of my life reading up on all of this stuff for no reason.
Why, I should have an honorary PsyD in all of this myself.
Cheap shot (gee, who woulda thunk it), but then again, just how do you think I know so much? I haven't invested years of my life reading up on all of this stuff for no reason.
Why, I should have an honorary PsyD in all of this myself.
Why do you assume I think you know much at all???
In fact, what I think is you are very lonesome and searching for something.
Personally, i am not a huge fan of 12 step programs, I don't like the idea of admitting one is helpless and must surrender to a higher power. There are non disease concept ways of treatment, success rates of one vs. the other, I don't know. It seems that in many ways, the person just simply becomes addicted to the process, rather than their drug of choice. However, I would MUCH rather have people addicted to talking, meetings, coffee and cigarettes than drugs or alcohol and the consequences that those addictions put on others.
Yes, yes. It is better to keep drinking. Going to bars you never run into predators or characters of questionable backgrounds abound.
I never go to bars, so I wouldn't know. But I imagine you are right.
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It's my experience that very,very rarley will you find someone "dangerous" in A.A.. And the few that are are easy to spot and they normally change or stop coming.
Now this is funny. I just happened to go on this singles dating site on a whim. Met this guy and thought he seemed ok. Did the email thing, followed by the phone call thing, followed by the meeting in a public place thing. Turns out he was also an AA attendee. For many reasons it wasn't a "fit." Three months later he was on our TV news featured in a valley-wide manhunt. Nah, no reason to think anyone is dangerous.
I also knew of someone who attended AA who had spent a total of 16 years in prison, in and out, and one of those times for armed robbery with a hostage - just your typical standard fare, right?
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P.S. How can the courts rule A.A. is a religious organization? There are athiest meetings. Like I said, courts are often wrong.
In fact, what I think is you are very lonesome and searching for something.
IMO, it won't be found on CD.
It certainly explains her comments about wanting drugs prescribed for alcoholism instead of personal responsibility....
It is sad.
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Pardon me, but are you a Dr or a shrink, no less? This specialist I am seeing charges $350 an hour for the first consultation and $75 for a 15 minute phone call. Both Klonopin AND Seroquel can be used as a sleep aids and are. I believe I did state that many drugs are used off label and ARE. I am not seeing a sleep specialist.
Klonopin MAY be used for patients with epilepsy (I wouldn't know as I don't have epilepsy nor have I ever seen a Dr. for that) but it is prescribed for anxiety disorder AND sleep, sleep in some cases. As I told you initally, Klonopin is a benzo. TWO Drs (both speciolists and high priced) have given it to me for sleep. I think I know what I am being prescribed. And I think given the fact this is the 4th shrink I have seen in this city (one of whom I saw for six years and not that it's any of your business), they just might know a bit more about these drugs than you and what they can and cannot be used for, both on label and off. And I have learned quite a bit in my travels as well. And I hardly doubt that four Drs are prescribing me drugs illegally.
In fact, what I think is you are very lonesome and searching for something.
IMO, it won't be found on CD.
I don't assume that at all and I really don't care what you think of me. What I do care about is seeing that these other programs have a chance of getting off the ground in a 12 step dominated world. I am not the only one. If if were not against the rules here, I could post quite a few links of forums devoted to this purpose.
As to the rest of your post, you have proven yourself to NOT be of character to question anyone's reason for doing anything.
I just happened to go on this singles dating site on a whim. Met this guy and thought he seemed ok. Did the email thing, followed by the phone call thing, followed by the meeting in a public place thing. Turns out he was also an AA attendee. For many reasons it wasn't a "fit." Three months later he was on our TV news featured in a valley-wide manhunt. Nah, no reason to think anyone is dangerous.
I also knew of someone who attended AA who had spent a total of 16 years in prison, in and out, and one of those times for armed robbery with a hostage - just your typical standard fare, right?
Because it is and see above.
Your experience and reference proves that meeting people from singles dating sites may be dangerous -- and that criminals are known to have substance abuse problems -- not that AA is necessarily filled with these types.
You made the choice to date a dangerous person that you met on a singles dating site...
It really comes down to personal responsibility... yours.
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