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Nobody is responsible for what others do except they themselves.
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Originally Posted by Workin_Hard
Your logic is flawed. Someone trying to flee shouts of "Fire" in a theater is trying to save their own life in the present moment and location. Someone harmed while trying to flee when they hear that someone thousands of miles away shouted "Fire" a month ago is quite another case.
Now you are putting conditions on your original blanket statement.
The pastor's act was preserved on film for the savages half way around the world to see. They were stirred to action by elements within their own country to burn and kill. They attacked a UN facility, killing UN workers, not just their own. It makes no difference when the action took place. If a recording of "Fire" made two weeks before is played over the sound system in the theater and people react as though it were shouted out live, it makes no difference. The end result is the same.
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“We’re stunned by this horrific and senseless act of violence by an angry mob. Nothing excuses the killing of innocent people,” said Haris Tarin, director of MPAC’s Washington, DC office. “This type of indiscriminate violence is reprehensible and barbaric, and violates core Islamic teachings which call for responding to hate with something that is better.”
Nobody is responsible for what others do except they themselves.
Now you are putting conditions on your original blanket statement.
The pastor's act was preserved on film for the savages half way around the world to see. They were stirred to action by elements within their own country to burn and kill. They attacked a UN facility, killing UN workers, not just their own. It makes no difference when the action took place. If a recording of "Fire" made two weeks before is played over the sound system in the theater and people react as though it were shouted out live, it makes no difference. The end result is the same.
There is no theater and nobody yelling fire. You analogy is bogus.
Would you make these same excuses for me if I was to slaughter a mosque full of Muslims because they burned a bible in Pakistan?
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Funny thing is that Muslims in the middle east kill Christians regularly and openly state they want to kill them all.
Now the mainstream American media is all worked up about some nutcase preacher in Florida who hasn't physically harmed anyone. Wonder why they don't get all worked up about Muslims in the middle killing Christians and wanting to exterminate anyone who is not Muslim?
Really. How about stop going into another country telling people to denounce their religion for yours.
Give your life to Christ.
Okay.
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Now you are putting conditions on your original blanket statement.
The pastor's act was preserved on film for the savages half way around the world to see. They were stirred to action by elements within their own country to burn and kill. They attacked a UN facility, killing UN workers, not just their own. It makes no difference when the action took place. If a recording of "Fire" made two weeks before is played over the sound system in the theater and people react as though it were shouted out live, it makes no difference. The end result is the same.
No I am not. If the people in the theater know that the cry of "Fire" is coming from a recording made in the past, they will not react in a panicked way. The savages are responding to an event in the past (and are aware of this) and which transpired thousands of miles from where they are at that moment. And they respond not in a manner indicatove of self-preservation, but are choosing to kill their fellow savages.
Many people keep comparing this to shouting Fire in a theater. Lets explore that.
If I shout Fire in a crowded theater it could be for these reasons.
1. There is no fire and I know that. I am doing it to only cause problems.
2. I believe there is a Fire. There may or may not be but I am convinced there is so I yell it
3. There really is a Fire.
Now lets take what the Pastor of this church did using the same analogy.
1. He burned the Koran simply to incite violence and cause problems for everyone
2. He believes the only way to go to heaven is through Jesus. So he burns the Koran in demonstration of that belief. It may cause violence but his beliefs are worth it to him.
3. He has 100% proof that God is real and is the only way to heaven.
If he simply did this to incite violence and death then it is not the right thing to do. However if he followed his beliefs and is doing it for those reasons then he has every right to do it.
Don't we have a right in this country to express our religious beliefs without the fear of persecution?
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