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Old 04-05-2011, 06:36 PM
 
Location: The Heartland
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Let's not forget that this poltroon had a range of choices on how to express his displeasure with Islam, and of all those choices, he chose the one that he knew would get innocent people killed.
Please remember your words the next time you wish to say something less than flattering about Christians, God and the Bible.

I have seen and read a lot of people say the most inflammatory things they can think of or do about Christians, including burning the Bible, but there is no outcry when that happens and to me the only difference is that Christians are peaceful and some Muslims will kill you.
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Old 04-05-2011, 06:39 PM
 
Location: The Heartland
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How about if you gave someone a button, and told them that if they press it, it would send out a radio signal across the world that would result in some innocent person's head to come off.

What kind of person would push the button, no matter what the means of decapitation happened to be?
Pushing a button does not express ones feelings about anything. Not a good analogy.
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Old 04-05-2011, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Pushing a button does not express ones feelings about anything. Not a good analogy.
Do you support a man's right to burn a cross as an expression of free speech?

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Old 04-05-2011, 06:48 PM
 
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Do you support a man's right to burn a cross as an expression of free speech?
This thread isn't about me but, feel free to answer your own question.
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Old 04-05-2011, 06:59 PM
 
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Please remember your words the next time you wish to say something less than flattering about Christians, God and the Bible.
I'm a Methodist, not that you bothered to ask. Again, even if I did say something of that sort, it is in a context where it is very unlikely that someone would kill an innocent third party.

Contrast this with the pastor, who knew that there was a very good chance, at least, that innocent people would be harmed if he did what he did.

He had a choice. His choice reflects his ethics.

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I have seen and read a lot of people say the most inflammatory things they can think of or do about Christians, including burning the Bible, but there is no outcry when that happens and to me the only difference is that Christians are peaceful and some Muslims will kill you.
All the more reason that this jerk should have known what the results would be.

It's unreasonable to believe for a second that he didn't know what would happen.
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Old 04-05-2011, 07:00 PM
 
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Pushing a button does not express ones feelings about anything. Not a good analogy.
OK then, how about "push this button if you don't like Islam."

Would that make it acceptable to you?
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Old 04-05-2011, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Florida
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This thread isn't about me but, feel free to answer your own question.
Me? No, I do not think buring of crosses is free speech, and the Supreme Court agrees with me.

I am asking you since you are the most vocal supporter of the idea that intimidation is a form of free speech.
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Old 04-05-2011, 07:05 PM
 
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Let's improve it further and say:

Push this button if you don't like Islam, there's only a 10% chance that some innocent person will be killed. You will suffer no legal sanction for your actions.


What kind of person would choose to push the button?

Certainly not a "Christian."
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Old 04-05-2011, 07:08 PM
 
Location: The Heartland
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I'm a Methodist, not that you bothered to ask. Again, even if I did say something of that sort, it is in a context where it is very unlikely that someone would kill an innocent third party.

Contrast this with the pastor, who knew that there was a very good chance, at least, that innocent people would be harmed if he did what he did.

He had a choice. His choice reflects his ethics.



All the more reason that this jerk should have known what the results would be.

It's unreasonable to believe for a second that he didn't know what would happen.
It seems that he may have been trying to point out a difference between Christians and Muslims.

Like I said in an earlier post, he got his message out weather anyone likes it or not. That message being that extreme Muslims will kill.
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Old 04-05-2011, 07:10 PM
 
Location: The Heartland
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OK then, how about "push this button if you don't like Islam."

Would that make it acceptable to you?
No, because that is not my stance and I am not sure what Jones' is.
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