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Why would the government put a top notch hospital in fly-over land where 18% of the US lives? How is that efficient? The whole argument for UHC is it cuts cost and provides better care.
Well, Katiana, they have to cut cost somewhere.
As Mircea repeats quite often it's related to the same reasoning behind economies of scale.
I don't understand what you're saying. We have several top-notch hospitals here in Denver, often considered flyover country.
Mircea doesn't have a post in this thread. Don't know what you're talking about there, either.
And the insurance companies have the freedom to refuse to insure you.
That's correct. But, yes there is a big but, it's one thing being turned down to purchase insurance it's quite another having proven effective treatment or payment of any kind not being paid by insurance once purchased especially by an insurance company that has had its premiums paid up by the client for years. No time to haggle with insurance companies over payment when the client is sick and it happens constantly, by the millions every year.
Would you be asking the same question if it were your spouse?
Of course it matters a lot, why should society step up and provide financial help for someone in need who made no effort to be productive before that time of need? If you work 20 years, pay taxes and are generally productive and then you fall ill and need assistance I'm all for helping that person because they deserve it. If you're of able body and/or mind and you aren't a productive member of society why should society step up to help you in a time of need? What have you done to deserve that help other than hold your hand out?
Should we as a society step up and help an ill 3 month old who needs it? Of course we should. Should we as a society step up the same way and help a 45 year old man who's never held a real job in his life, has lived on various forms of government assistance for decades and has walked into an ER with a broken arm?
My spouse is a productive member of society and doesn't rely on the government for assistance so it doesn't really matter does it?
I don't understand what you're saying. We have several top-notch hospitals here in Denver, often considered flyover country.
Mircea doesn't have a post in this thread. Don't know what you're talking about there, either.
Sure, they're top notch now because they charge exorbitant prices to have an MRI machine that sits or way more hospital beds than they'll ever fill.
The alternative under a Universal type system will be hospitals more centralized and the bean counters assuring they don't have extra equipment sitting around or too many hospital beds just sitting there.
What that means is all the people close to that hospital will be okay but the 18% across the nation that lives miles upon miles from anything centralized will be, as is put around so many times in here, left out in the streets ( corn fields) to die.
In other words all you do is transfer the health care burden from a percentage of the population that couldn't afford to one that can't get to it.
Yes, they exist now but they aren't forced to participate. They can choose not to pay for any insurance and still pull teeth with wrenches/doors/strings/rocks/.. or fix broken bones by walking it off...
Sure, they're top notch now because they charge exorbitant prices to have an MRI machine that sits or way more hospital beds than they'll ever fill.
The alternative under a Universal type system will be hospitals more centralized and the bean counters assuring they don't have extra equipment sitting around or too many hospital beds just sitting there.
What that means is all the people close to that hospital will be okay but the 18% across the nation that lives miles upon miles from anything centralized will be, as is put around so many times in here, left out in the streets ( corn fields) to die.
In other words all you do is transfer the health care burden from a percentage of the population that couldn't afford to one that can't get to it.
Yes, they exist now but they aren't forced to participate. They can choose not to pay for any insurance and still pull teeth with wrenches/doors/strings/rocks/.. or fix broken bones by walking it off...
What the H***? What on earth are you talking about? Metro Denver has 3 million people living here! Plus, we do get a lot of people coming here for health care from most of eastern Colorado and Wyoming. What do you mean by unused MRI machines? It takes months to get an appointment at a Children's Hospital clinic. Please explain, I seriously don't get what you could possibly be talking about!!!
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