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Old 06-12-2011, 01:04 PM
 
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the success of this guys business is not enough. He should be more successful without taking a risk, or gambling, as you suggest.

If he does nothing, he is stuck with a successful business. The horror.
How do you manage to ignore logic the way you do? This is truly amazing.

This is not about HIM. This is about the fact that small businessed across the board are SUFFERING because they CANNOT expand and hire because of the uncertainty of the economy caused by what's going on in the government.

The government is making it MORE risky to expand. Therefore stifling business growth, and therefore hiring.
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Old 06-12-2011, 01:06 PM
 
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Kill the government!
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Old 06-12-2011, 01:10 PM
 
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The man in the aisle seat is trying to tell me why he refuses to hire anybody. His business is successful, he says, as the 737 cruises smoothly eastward. Demand for his product is up. But he still won’t hire.
“Why not?”
“Because I don’t know how much it will cost,” he explains. “How can I hire new workers today, when I don’t know how much they will cost me tomorrow?”
He’s referring not to wages, but to regulation: He has no way of telling what new rules will go into effect when. His business, although it covers several states, operates on low margins. He can’t afford to take the chance of losing what little profit there is to the next round of regulatory changes. And so he’s hiring nobody until he has some certainty about cost.

Uncertainty and economic recovery: Partisan animal spirits | The Economist

This is why Obama's recovery is failing !
This post is bologna! This alleged business owner will hire when demand for his produce increases.

If hiring more people is going to bring down his business, he shouldn't be hiring in the first place.

Not to mention, a good business owner will pay overtime, rather than hire a new full timer and add another employee to their health insurance rolls.
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Old 06-12-2011, 01:12 PM
 
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This post is bologna! This alleged business owner will hire when demand for his produce increases.
Another issue directly related to the economy.

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If hiring more people is going to bring down his business, he shouldn't be hiring in the first place.
Yes, but the state of the economy can directly affect whether or not hiring new employees will be risky enough to bring down his business.
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Old 06-12-2011, 01:14 PM
 
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Kill the government!
Before it kills . . .
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Old 06-12-2011, 01:14 PM
 
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How do you manage to ignore logic the way you do?
How did you manage to miss the opening post when it was suggested that this guys success (or more success) was blamed on Obama? I am trying to stay on topic, this topic. Feel free to re-read the title again. If you want to talk about other business', besides this guys successful one, go right ahead. Go off topic.
I wanted to talk about this guy and his business practices.
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Old 06-12-2011, 01:18 PM
 
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Yes, but the state of the economy can directly affect whether or not hiring new employees will be risky enough to bring down his business.
That's why you shouldn't hire in a tough economy. You should pay overtime if need be...but don't hire.
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Old 06-12-2011, 01:18 PM
 
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How did you manage to miss the opening post when it was suggested that this guys success (or more success) was blamed on Obama? I am trying to stay on topic, this topic. Feel free to re-read the title again. If you want to talk about other business', besides this guys successful one, go right ahead. Go off topic.
I wanted to talk about this guy and his business practices.
This guy is in the same boat as every other business. Does it matter if he is currently successful or not? No, it doesn't. Not one bit. The underlying point of this thread was not focused on this specific business owner's current financial state, but to provide an example of what is happening to business owners all over the country. This is very obvious and if you can't understand it then I don't know what to tell you.

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Now are you going to deny that uncertainty caused by government imposed regulation makes it more risky and therefore less beneficial for him to hire new employees? And are you going to deny that less hiring equals higher unemployment?
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Old 06-12-2011, 01:19 PM
 
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That's why you shouldn't hire in a tough economy. You should pay overtime if need be...but don't hire.
Of course you shouldn't hire in a tough economy. That's the point. You also shouldn't hire when you have massive uncertainty about future laws, regulations, and taxes.
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Old 06-12-2011, 01:59 PM
 
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... Does it matter if he is currently successful or not? No, it doesn't. Not one bit.
So, you are using a successful business as an example of how Obama and his policies are preventing successful businesses?

Wow. And my logic was questioned earlier in this thread.
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