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Firstly, I would propose you ceasing to imply that they are some sort of victim. They made their (bad) choices and bad choices have consequences, many of which last a lifetime. Those of us who have refrained from robbing and murdering are the bad people?
Secondly, if one chooses not to hire an ex-con, it strikes me as prudent, not discrimination. I suspect most violent ex-cons are capable of little more than pushing a mail cart around my office. We can find plenty of law-abiding people to do that.
Finally, I would propose that people embrace education rather than crime as a means to advance. Simplistic? I think not. How many violent felons can honestly say their crime payed off? When does society ascend the learning curve? What is wrong with a culture that values spending years in jail rather than years ina classroom?
You want to hire a felon, go right ahead. I suspect others have and may have done well by it.
I always like it when someone ignores what I wrote, and instead asks and answers their own questions...
We went that route and it turned out badly. It created a permanent underclass. Do we want to replicate India's caste system?
Freedom is great. No problem there. But the freedom to destroy, divide, or be stupid should be discouraged. "Your" utopian America is apparently one where discrimination would be encouraged simply because it is not discouraged.
I would be hesitant to hire a repeat offender, especially if their prior crime might pose a danger to my business, but it is our societal duty to discourage any attempt to create--willfully or accidentally--a class of people with little or no value simply because we don't like their _____ (fill in the blank).
There is a collective responsibility that demands the curtailing of some freedoms in order to maintain a society worth cherishing. This approach is the middle way between utter chaos without restriction and pure totalitarianism. In other words, we're going to have to put up with it.
You "put up with it," because I will never hire a felon under any circumstances. I do not care if they are the most qualified person on the planet, if they were convicted of a felony (I do not care how recent or how long ago it was) they can find work elsewhere because I will not give them the time of day much less a job.
Please cite evidence that people who are unemployed or who have bad credit are less likely to be capable of doing the job?
I once had a high-volume cashier job at a time when I had bad credit. It didn't make me less capable of doing the job. Why would it?
If you have two people, one with a 500 and a felony record and one with a 750 and no records, it stands to reason one is more responsible. This is common sense and you know it.
But to be honest, it doesn't matter how rational it is. It's my business. I hire who I want to hire.
You only hire perfect people like yourself, I imagine.
We are a spiteful society. We send people off to prison for decades with no thought about rehabilitation, just punishment. And when they're done, the punishment continues for now that they've been in jail, they should be shunned forever. Or, like you do, they should not be given a chance at a decent job. Without forgiveness, there is no hope. Without hope, there will be desperation. With desperation, there will be crime. Can we not see how the condition is a vicious cycle?
Face it, in America we treat each other like crap. Everybody, even those who haven't committed a crime. Distrust rules the day. Pee in this cup so I can test your bodily fluids and maybe, just maybe, I'll hire you.
Bleeding hearts will for the most part save this country from itself. And the heartless empty vessels now masquerading as human beings will die out like the dinosaurs.
And it's funny that most of these people claim to be Christians! Now, I'm no bleeding heart by any means, and there are those that truly belong in prison, such as pedophiles, murderers, rapists, the Bernie Madoff types. But it really is a vicious cycle when a non-violent offender who pays his debt to society has suffered the consequences for his actions, and still gets beaten down to the point of which that person ends up going back to doing the same thing. Because of their record they can't find a job, and of course in turn becomes more desperate, which causes them to commit more serious offenses! It's sad that because people are so unforgiving and vindictive that someone is actually thinking of making a law about this! I'm not for the law by any means, as it is that person's business, their rules. But it doesn't make it right either!
Convicted felons cannot vote, or own a firearm, and they have their ability to travel restricted.
Looks to me like a convicted felon continues paying for their crime for the rest of their life.
This is not necessarily true, in most states, as soon as the felon is released from incarceration they can vote, other states have a time line before they can. Once they are no longer on parole, they can travel all they want. Also some can even apply for a waiver to be able to own a firearm.
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Now, I'm no bleeding heart by any means, and there are those that truly belong in prison, such as pedophiles, murderers, rapists, the Bernie Madoff types. But it really is a vicious cycle when a non-violent offender who pays his debt to society has suffered the consequences for his actions, and still gets beaten down to the point of which that person ends up going back to doing the same thing. Because of their record they can't find a job, and of course in turn becomes more desperate, which causes them to commit more serious offenses! It's sad that because people are so unforgiving and vindictive that someone is actually thinking of making a law about this! I'm not for the law by any means, as it is that person's business, their rules. But it doesn't make it right either!
