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Old 08-03-2011, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Pa
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Originally Posted by freemkt View Post
How do convicts earn a living?
I dont care....
Not my problem that they decided at some point that crime was a good way to go.
This is the price they pay for being the scum of the earth.
How do their victims cope after what happened?
How do they learn to sleep at night after they were hurt?
This is what I care about.
if convicts starve to death the world is better for it. Lock them up and they continue their violence. Only now on each other. Its the path they chose.
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Old 08-03-2011, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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These "victims" had choices and they made poor choices. Sorry if employers don't want to hire them but that is the employer's right.

Let the government hire them if they feel so bad for these 'victims of society'.
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Old 08-03-2011, 10:47 AM
 
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Absolutely agree that we have been forced to spend too much money on these things, but the answer is . . . LESS THUGS COMMITTING CRIME - and that is something none of us has control over, except in our homes. Don't raise thugs, lol.

Cretins who prefer robbing our homes and holding up gas stations are the problem. That is a PARENTING problem.
I have no problem penalizing "Criminals", people who choose a criminal lifestyle, but offer them a clear-cut way out so they see an incentive to improve.
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Old 08-03-2011, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Central, IL
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Where I work they do not hire convicts. If you have a felony you dont get hired. I am glad for that. I dont wwant to work with a convicted rapist, car thief, drug dealer,pedophile or killer who got a plea bargain.
Consequences for our actions.
The majority of us dont seem to have a problem obeying the law. I dont care what motivated the rapist. i dont care what motivated the car thief.
Yes its possible that a stranger will do these things. 100% the convict already has.
Not 100% but probably close to it.

So if where you worked, they decided to hire someone with a felony, would you quite your job?

The thing is, unless someone tells you, you may never know that the person working next to you is a felon or not.
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Old 08-03-2011, 10:49 AM
 
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Originally Posted by tinman01 View Post
i dont care....
Not my problem that they decided at some point that crime was a good way to go.
This is the price they pay for being the scum of the earth.
How do their victims cope after what happened?
How do they learn to sleep at night after they were hurt?
This is what i care about.
If convicts starve to death the world is better for it. Lock them up and they continue their violence. Only now on each other. Its the path they chose.
unbelievable !
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Old 08-03-2011, 10:50 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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That is what I have come to believe based on the crime I see here in Charlotte, NC, where I live. We have repeat offenders, who have been given every chance in the world to get back on track . . . meaning . . . DAs continually plea bargain . . . even put ankle bracelets on 'em . . . and they get out (or get the bracelet off) and literally, within hours, they have committed another robbery, assault, etc. And what is so sickening, most of these thugs are under 25 y/o. Many are not even 18 and already have a long rap sheet.

We have done everything possible to mitigate the situation by throwing money at it. The bulk of our lottery education money goes to "at risk" children. Yet, these kids drop out of school cause their parent(s) don't care whether they attend school or not . . . we have GED programs . . . we subsidize them to go to the community college. We have "get back on your feet" programs for felons when they get out of prison.

Yet, they choose to re-offend. And their mommas get on TV and cry about what a "good boy" they really are, even if they were caught red-handed shooting someone in their own neighborhood.

Obviously, if their own mothers are gonna uphold their crappy behavior, nothing is gonna change w/ these folks. In their own neighborhoods, people are afraid of retaliation and so people won't come forward out of fear. And then, of course, there is a gangsta wannabe element out there - it is "cool" to be a criminal.

I say - if it is so cool to be a criminal, suffer the consequences of that lifestyle decision. Society can't "make up" for lousy parenting when a kid has been taught that being a thug is an acceptable lifestyle choice.


Unfortunately you can't save everybody.
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Old 08-03-2011, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Central, IL
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Originally Posted by tinman01 View Post
I dont care....
Not my problem that they decided at some point that crime was a good way to go.
This is the price they pay for being the scum of the earth.
How do their victims cope after what happened?
How do they learn to sleep at night after they were hurt?
This is what I care about.
if convicts starve to death the world is better for it. Lock them up and they continue their violence. Only now on each other. Its the path they chose.
OKay, and if their victims had nothing to cope with?
What if they were not hurt at all?

So the teenager that was pulled over for driving on a suspended license, but got scared and fled, should starve to death and the world would be better for it?
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Old 08-03-2011, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Unfortunately you can't save everybody.
The liberals can even it it means changing the laws.
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Old 08-03-2011, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Pa
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Not 100% but probably close to it.

So if where you worked, they decided to hire someone with a felony, would you quite your job?

The thing is, unless someone tells you, you may never know that the person working next to you is a felon or not.
No because that is not a problem. The company does back ground checks.
If they did hire one and put him on my team I would not protect him, defend him, or stand up for him as I would anyone else. If he did his job I would not hammer him. If he didnt then the hammer would drop. I would do everything withing guidelines to make his life suck or atleast feel less than welcome.
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Old 08-03-2011, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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rhawkins..

Actually it's up to the employer and he can make that decision for his company. Depending on the position he might hire him or he might not if it's a driving job.

Let the employer decide, not the government or an activist group.
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