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Old 08-30-2011, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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I only demonstrated your ignorance of how life really works.
By demonstrating that what I just posted was true?

How does that work? Exactly?
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Old 08-30-2011, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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and the way to make it more affordable...get rid of ALL insurance (for basic things) to include the GOVERNMENT
Okay... the plunge into depths of febrile irrationality has commenced...
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Old 08-30-2011, 01:26 PM
 
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By demonstrating that what I just posted was true?

How does that work? Exactly?
I don't think many of your posts are actually based on any truth, just opinion.
Let me ask you something. Why should anyone take steps to care for someone if they aren't willing to do it themselves?
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Old 08-30-2011, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Okay... the plunge into depths of febrile irrationality has commenced...
how is it irrational

I said get rid of all insurance (private and government)

why should SOMEONE ELSE (person or entity) pay YOUR bill

get rid of insurnace and get government out of health care and you will see the cost DROP
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Old 08-30-2011, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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I don't think many of your posts are actually based on any truth, just opinion.
That's usually your fallback position.

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Let me ask you something. Why should anyone take steps to care for someone if they aren't willing to do it themselves?
Willing is not the relevant qualifier. Able is.

But the reasons for doing so are multiple, ranging from a simple moral choice to a selfish anticipation of future reciprocity. We could talk about those reasons for days.
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Old 08-30-2011, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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get rid of insurnace and get government out of health care and you will see the cost DROP
Actually, no. You will see the entire healthcare system collapse. Globally.
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Old 08-30-2011, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Up in the air
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I have a disorder and the most prominent symptoms are bone pain and extreme fatigue. I have been working my buns off just to keep my head above water, and it's a constant struggle. I don't receive charity and I thank my lucky stars that I have decent insurance, but not everyone is able to make it through college while holding a full time job and at the same time deal with the requirement of sleeping 12+ hours a day and excruciating bone pain that not even narcotic pain killers can help. I guess since I've been through all that I understand the need for quality health care and also understand that there are always going to be those that need more help than others. I'm guessing you've been healthy most of your life? I do hope your child or close family member never gets afflicted with a disorder like mine... although, I'm sure you've saved up the spare $200,000 a year the medication would cost.


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No, their wealth doesn't make them genetically superior, it makes it easier to pay for things. What I am saying is that generation after generation of playing victim and not WILLING to do anything about their situation should and will bring on their demise, either socially, economically or both. That's just how it works in real life.
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Old 08-30-2011, 01:37 PM
 
Location: London, U.K.
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I just want to point out that altruism is an important component in human evolution, seen as we are social animals. Seems to be lost on some here.
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Old 08-30-2011, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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I just want to point out that altruism is an important component in human evolution, seen as we are social animals. Seems to be lost on some here.
I think some of these "rugged individualists" should pick up a copy of Jon Krakauer's Into the Wild. We have evolved as a community because as individuals we are almost helpless in nature.

Ever watched a grown man chased by a duck?

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Old 08-30-2011, 01:54 PM
 
Location: London, U.K.
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You don't think they'd actually pick up such a book do you?
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