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Old 09-20-2011, 09:40 AM
 
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Well, I would think that it would hurt the economy to do this, since companies will have to give you a longer grace period to pay your bills, since mail does not run every day "It's not my fault that it wasn't on time".

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No they wont...not a chance that would happen.
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Old 09-20-2011, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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I forget the exact figure but the US postal service loses a huge pile of money every year. That is the kind of thing that gives the government a bad name for being incompetent and unable to run a business. The Canadian PO makes a profit and it sure is up against it compared to the USPO. Huge territory to cover with a small population, no economy of scale etc. If you look at it historicaly the USPO has always been the plum of political patronage. It's very likely the same today and that makes it an albatross around the necks of American taxpayers. I would care less if they reduced mail delivery to 2 or 3 times per week. In this computer age it really is not as necessary to have daily delivery as in the past. I don't know if it's still the case or not but in the UK they had mail twice a day. To prevent hardship by all the postal workers that would be out of a job the postal service should be reduced by attrition and just not replacing people as they retire, quit etc.
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Old 09-20-2011, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Central, IL
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Well, since it's suits YOU then I guess that's what they should do. Who cares how any other American feels on the subject.

What the hell has happened to this country?
OH because it don't suit YOU then I guess they shouldn't do it. Who cares how any other American feels on the subject.

I am not the only American that does not use the USPS to mail things.
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Old 09-20-2011, 10:08 AM
 
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Better yet...lets abolish the pension funds in general, across the board and move everyone into 401k's.
Seriously? Abolish pension funds?

What the hell is this country coming to?
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Old 09-20-2011, 10:21 AM
 
Location: KCMO, returning to Indy in 2012!
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My point exactly...for the most part, private companies seem to be much better at finding more efficient and cost effective was of doing things than government entities.
I think parts of the USPS could be contracted out to find more efficiencies and cost savings, and I do think that will be part of the plan, but the entire thing can't be. No private company would want to take on that burden. Like I said, the two big private competitors to the USPS don't want anything to do with residential delivery as it's a drain on their resources.
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Old 09-20-2011, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Keller, TX
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Education alert
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Republicans want to crush teachers, firefighters, Highway maintenence workers, police, postal workers...

WHY do the Republicans want to crush these people into the dirt?
I think you win the award for most strident, hyperbolic liberal ranting. How do you expect to be taken seriously?

What do you think about my idea of Congress outlawing online billpay, online statements, online corporate actions and prospectuses, etc.? Wouldn't that be a very effective means of artificially propping up the USPS for years to come in one fell swoop? Wouldn't it be easy to couch it in "consumer protection" terms and talk about how confusing billpay is for a poor old lady to understand? If we DON'T do this, isn't the writing already on the wall?

The Postmaster General was on NPR this morning stating that demand had dropped off more than they thought it would just in the past nine months. He is completely unconcerned with Fed Ex and UPS and is entirely concerned with the internet. He doesn't think much of online billpay and email.
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The USPS could go to one day a week delivery and that would be more then sufficient for me.
For me as well. I only go out to the box every week or two anyway. An informal servey of my colleagues yielded this minimum number of home delivery days per week: 1, 2, 2, 3, and 4.
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Old 09-20-2011, 10:24 AM
 
Location: KCMO, returning to Indy in 2012!
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Seriously? Abolish pension funds?

What the hell is this country coming to?
As someone else pointed out, my intent was for this to apply to NEW employees.
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Old 09-20-2011, 10:26 AM
 
Location: KCMO, returning to Indy in 2012!
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OH because it don't suit YOU then I guess they shouldn't do it. Who cares how any other American feels on the subject.

I am not the only American that does not use the USPS to mail things.
The selfishness inherent in your posts is simply astounding. Some use it, some don't and neither of those two groups should have the final say on the matter. We all have a say.

If you don't like the fact that every American has a voice and say in how this country is run then I strongly suggest you leave and start your own country somewhere else.
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Old 09-20-2011, 10:27 AM
 
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As someone else pointed out, my intent was for this to apply to NEW employees.
Yup, and the free market is essentially abolishing them anyway since so many have become insolvent. But yes...we need to transition away from them. Self funded (with employer contributions) and self managed accounts are the way to go.
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Old 09-20-2011, 10:29 AM
 
Location: KCMO, returning to Indy in 2012!
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I forget the exact figure but the US postal service loses a huge pile of money every year. That is the kind of thing that gives the government a bad name for being incompetent and unable to run a business. The Canadian PO makes a profit and it sure is up against it compared to the USPO. Huge territory to cover with a small population, no economy of scale etc. If you look at it historicaly the USPO has always been the plum of political patronage. It's very likely the same today and that makes it an albatross around the necks of American taxpayers. I would care less if they reduced mail delivery to 2 or 3 times per week. In this computer age it really is not as necessary to have daily delivery as in the past. I don't know if it's still the case or not but in the UK they had mail twice a day. To prevent hardship by all the postal workers that would be out of a job the postal service should be reduced by attrition and just not replacing people as they retire, quit etc.
Seriously folks, Wikipedia is your friend.

United States Postal Service - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"The USPS has not directly received taxpayer-dollars since the early 1980s with the minor exception of subsidies for costs associated with the disabled and overseas voters."
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