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Old 11-28-2011, 08:08 PM
 
Location: S.E. US
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If one doesn't believe in God, why bother observing Thanksgiving? What or whom are you thanking, and for what?


Proclamation of National Thanksgiving was made by George Washington
October 1789.

Rediscovering George Washington . Milestones: Read the First Thanksgiving | PBS

In it, Washington also beseeched God "to pardon our national and other transgressions, to enable us all, whether in public or private stations, to perform our several and relative duties properly and punctually, to render our national government a blessing to all the people, by constantly being a Government of wise, just, and constitutional laws, discreetly and faithfully executed and obeyed..."

Wonder what happened...that's not a government I recognize as being much like what we have today.

Maybe because over the years we allowed God to become marginalized by nonsense called political correctness, to the point where the mention of God is attacked on every occasion in the public arena and the rights of non-believers become more important than those of believers.

For someone who made the sign of the cross over the turkey he pardoned to not mention God with reference to Thaksgiving shows some confused thinking.
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Old 11-28-2011, 08:08 PM
 
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I'm always wary of politicians invoking God, especially ones that have presidential aspirations or are in an election year. Most of the time it sounds very fake
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Old 11-28-2011, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I think a couple of posters here should be in the Religous forum, not political since it's a religious position they're arguing not controversial or political.
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Old 11-28-2011, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Metro DC area
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"Three of the Republican presidential candidates – Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum – issued Thanksgiving statements that omitted any references to God."

Obama Omits God From Thanksgiving Address, Riles Critics - ABC News

Obama wasn't alone now was he? "Gods" have no place in the political arena. Keep your fairytales behind the closed doors of your cult.
This is extremely offensive. Can we not have opposing views without the need for such hate?
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Old 11-28-2011, 08:15 PM
 
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This is extremely offensive. Can we not have opposing views without the need for such hate?
You want liberal tolerance? Convert to Islam.
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Old 11-28-2011, 08:16 PM
 
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This is extremely offensive. Can we not have opposing views without the need for such hate?
Liberals want tolerance for their views, but they want to oppress views that are not their own
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Old 11-28-2011, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Metro DC area
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Liberals want tolerance for their views, but they want to oppress views that are not their own
Care to expound?
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Old 11-28-2011, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Helena, Montana
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"Three of the Republican presidential candidates – Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum – issued Thanksgiving statements that omitted any references to God."

Obama Omits God From Thanksgiving Address, Riles Critics - ABC News

Obama wasn't alone now was he? "Gods" have no place in the political arena. Keep your fairytales behind the closed doors of your cult.
I agreed with everything you said up until then. I have my beliefs, and respect that other people have theirs. I could care less if Obama did or didn't mention God, his belief of lack of belief is not my concern or business. You had your point across, but had to add that last insult. You know damn well that insulting something as sacred and personal as someone's religous beliefs is just going to infuriate, so why not just keep it to yourself?
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Old 11-28-2011, 08:20 PM
 
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If one doesn't believe in God, why bother observing Thanksgiving? What or whom are you thanking, and for what?


Proclamation of National Thanksgiving was made by George Washington
October 1789.

Rediscovering George Washington . Milestones: Read the First Thanksgiving | PBS

In it, Washington also beseeched God "to pardon our national and other transgressions, to enable us all, whether in public or private stations, to perform our several and relative duties properly and punctually, to render our national government a blessing to all the people, by constantly being a Government of wise, just, and constitutional laws, discreetly and faithfully executed and obeyed..."

Wonder what happened...that's not a government I recognize as being much like what we have today.

Maybe because over the years we allowed God to become marginalized by nonsense called political correctness, to the point where the mention of God is attacked on every occasion in the public arena and the rights of non-believers become more important than those of believers.

For someone who made the sign of the cross over the turkey he pardoned to not mention God with reference to Thaksgiving shows some confused thinking.

Beautifully said, sw bound!!!

I feel Heaven surrounding us!
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Old 11-28-2011, 08:21 PM
 
Location: S.E. US
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I hope it was intentional... 'cause you know.... there really is no god.
If there were no God, atheists would have no reason for being. Or, to put it another way, the existence of atheists proves there IS a God.

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I think a couple of posters here should be in the Religous forum, not political since it's a religious position they're arguing not controversial or political.
Try again.

I think it is a controversial and political issue.

How would you separate Washington's numerous mentions of God in his proclamation from the political arena?

Take all references of God out, and Washington would need a teleprompter to deliver the proclamation as it becomes nonsensical.
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