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Old 03-08-2012, 08:49 AM
 
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If the Pill is not a medicine.....why do you have to go to a doctor and get a prescription for it?
Doctor's have to make sure you can take it.
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Old 03-08-2012, 08:49 AM
 
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Why are you so worried about what OTHER people have or haven't in their coverage ?

If maternity coverage was important to me then I would find a job whose insurance covered it. Having a baby is pretty expensive these days.

If BC coverage was important to me then I would find a job whose insurance covered it. But BC is not that expensive so I wouldn't and would just go to Planned Parenthood and buy the pill outright each month. Buying the pill is not that expensive.

Some people let their emotions get the better of them and ride an issue past the point of sanity "just because their guy says it's good".


I wish folks were this outraged over lacking senior medical coverage..like hearing aids, pacemakers, high blood pressure/heart medications that cost them hundreds per month while they are on fixed income.
No one seems to care about that but damn..give those young folks free BC .

First, I will state that I AM concerned about other people and what they get. It's just my nature. I don't like to see anyone not have access to healthcare or not be able to get the healthcare that they need because of lack of money. This defintely goes for seniors. I give a GREAT DAMN about seniors and the costs of their meds. I would like them not to have to pay for them and will be on that bandwagon.

I do want to see a basic standard/level of care in the U.S. You shouldn't lack for better access to keeping yourself alive, healthy, or UNpregnant just because you live in a samll town and there's only one (or two) games in town for employers. You should not be deniedaccess to something because you aren't scientifically/mathematically inclined and therefore couldn't get one of those great engineering jobs that gives you tons of career opportunities. Your health shouldn't have to suffer. Your access to iPads and iPhones is a different matter.

As for "free" birth control? I'm fiscally conservative and I think that goes too far. But I do believe it should be offered as part of insurance just like any other preventive medication with a co-pay. There is some wisdom to having no co-pay just like with the "free" mammograms that are now mandated, but I'm not stuck on that.
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Old 03-08-2012, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Insurance companies shouldn't be forced to cover either of them.

I am moderate, I will probably vote for Obama, but I disagree with a lot of the left-wingers on this thread. Two wrongs don't make a right.
It is not wrong for the government to provide a framework, a baseline to define minimum coverage that ought to be provided. We're not a nation where people can get away from health insurance coverage and be okay. Insurance has become integral to every person's welfare, and consequently that of the nation. It is why I can see a point to most states requiring insurance companies to cover contraceptives. This has been made an "Obamacare" issue for political reasons, whereas the requirements have existed long before that.

Now, if there were such thing as public option, I would agree. The insurance companies would have to compete and offer more services.
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Old 03-08-2012, 08:51 AM
 
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A little extreme there..only Dallas or Houston perform abortions in Texas ?
I didn't say only Dallas or Houston perform abortions. I simply used them as examples of places where someone from rural Texas might have to travel to in order to get an abortion, or even have to travel to in order to get a free Pap Smear at Planned Parenthood. Perhaps you'd like to address the point of my post, that young and poor women are the targets of conservatives who don't want women to be able to control their own reproductive health, privately in consultation with their doctors?
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Old 03-08-2012, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Where did you come up with that one? Why don't you show us some documentation on where that declaration was made?
The FDA approved it as a drug in 1998.
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Old 03-08-2012, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Doctor's have to make sure you can take it.
Just like Viagra? So what's the difference?
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Old 03-08-2012, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I didn't say only Dallas or Houston perform abortions. I simply used them as examples of places where someone from rural Texas might have to travel to in order to get an abortion, or even have to travel to in order to get a free Pap Smear at Planned Parenthood. Perhaps you'd like to address the point of my post, that young and poor women are the targets of conservatives who don't want women to be able to control their own reproductive health, privately in consultation with their doctors?
And just where are you getting your information from ?

Plenty of abortions go on in small podunk towns. And they don't have to travel hours. The county health clinic offers many of those services for free or reduced cost to the poor.
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Old 03-08-2012, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Mississippi
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The right to USE contraception is not the same as the right to contraception.
Exactly.
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Old 03-08-2012, 08:56 AM
 
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Doctor's have to make sure you can take it.
Like I said--show us the part where the feds have determined that BC pills aren't a medication. Go ahead...we're all waiting...
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Old 03-08-2012, 09:01 AM
 
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I'm not willing to let $9 a month determine my vote. That allows me to be clear headed enough to vote for a Democrat from one office and a Repub. for another.

For the record, Factcheck.org says the Viagra vs. birth control coverage is a myth:

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Planned Parenthood is running a TV ad showing John McCain painfully groping for an answer to a reporter’s question: "It’s unfair that health insurance companies cover Viagra but not birth control. Do you have an opinion on that?"
McCain had good reason to be flustered. The premise of the reporter’s question is a myth. We couldn’t find any data that show a disparity between health insurance companies that cover Viagra and those that cover birth control.

But that’s not the case. A 2004 report by the nonpartisan Guttmacher Institute found that in 2002, 86 percent of the plans that insurance companies typically wrote for employers covered the full range of approved reversible contraceptive methods (birth control pills, hormone injections, implants, IUDs and diaphragms), and only 2 percent covered no methods at all.
FactCheck.org : McCain’s Viagra Moment
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