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Old 04-17-2012, 06:36 PM
 
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Again, Herman Cain has said racism doesn't exist in America...do you believe him? What if a black person sad to you "I grew up in Alabama and never experienced racism"?

I am not white, and I know white America will always see me as an outsider...but so will black America. How hard is that to understand?

Oh, and still no outrage from what Kanye West said:
Kanye believe it?! Mixed-race girls branded 'mutts' / Music News // Drowned In Sound

Do you think I hacked that website just to put that story up? Or maybe you are that ashamed of your people that you're okay with this black thug calling all mixed females "mutts" who exist only for his sexual needs? If a white man said that, you would be angry (and rightfully so, I must add) But a black man says that about YOUR race and you let him get away with it?

Go ahead...bow down before the Afro-Aryans. But know this: they all think less of you and when the chips are down, you're nothing but a worthless half-breed in their eyes. I learned that lesson the hard way.

Hermain Cain is not generalizing a whole race like you. You are taking a statement from one black rapper and acting like the entire black race sat at a round table and agreed with him.

Or maybe you are that ashamed of your people that you're okay with this black thug calling all mixed females "mutts" who exist only for his sexual needs?


First: Kanye West's statement has nothing to do with him being black. I don't know why you are trying to act like him being black has something to do with it. There are people of all races that feel the same. You clearly must think Kanye West represents the black race as a whole or something.

Second: Kanye West is far from a "Black Thug". His mother was a Professor at a university and the chair of the English department. He got A's and B's in school and lived in the suburban Oak Lawn, Illonois. He was a middle class black growing up in a 93% white community.

Looking at his background it is safe to say he does not represent blacks or share the same frame of mind as your common urban African American.

"But know this: they all think less of you and when the chips are down, you're nothing but a worthless half-breed in their eyes. I learned that lesson the hard way."

I'm hardly a worthless half breed in peoples eyes. People don't single me out or call me a "half breed". People accept me and couldn't care less about my race.

"Go ahead...bow down before the Afro-Aryans. But know this: they all think less of you and when the chips are down, you're nothing but a worthless half-breed in their eyes."

Just because the blacks in your family treated you badly you think all blacks are just the same. That's what I'm getting from this. You seem to have something against blacks.

 
Old 04-17-2012, 06:40 PM
 
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Exactly and that is what I asked him before. I asked him and others like him: Why are you so hellbent on losing your "Black" label, but not another label? I see that happen a lot in society: people are so interested in getting rid of their Black label, but you don't see them trying to get rid of any other label. That tells me that they are indeed victims to the way society has molded our minds in regards to how we view being Black. Also, you don't see the same amount of non-Black people trying to highlight their Black roots or looking for something else to say that they are. Hmm.
Nightly, emergency rooms all over America are filled with "biracials," "mixed" people, Latinos, Cape Verdeans, West Indians, and other various and sundry African or Negroid people who injure themselves in their mad rush to run away from any association with African Americans.

You know who you are.
 
Old 04-17-2012, 06:42 PM
 
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Kid Rock has a black girlfriend...nough said.




I met an intelligent, beautiful woman the other day...she's Ethiopian American, and can't stand hip-hop "music" and plays the viola and loves classical music. She hinted that she wanted to see the Seattle Symphony with someone....
Yep, I'll take a non-black American woman who enjoys things like classical music over a three hundred pound bag of attitude and hair extensions who thinks Edvard Grieg is a venereal disease any day of the week (who the F**** doesn't love Peer Gynt?)
I have yet to meet a black American woman I can relate to. Sorry, but I actually enjoys books and nature and art, not the B.E.T. top forty and looking for who is my real "baby daddy".
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Old 04-17-2012, 06:45 PM
 
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And that is one of the major reasons why blacks don't like me: I look like a Latino. Hence, they wonder what this "Mexican" or "Dominican" is doing in their neighborhood.
No such thing. Any white, black, mixed, Asian or American Indian can "look like a Latino."

I was once crossing the US/Mexico border checkpoint at San Ysidro with three Latinas. I was the only man. We were all American citizens. One was Mexican, one Puerto Rican, the other Dominican (though quite light). Guess who got stopped and questioned by Immigration?

Me. The black Cuban who looked like I was straight outta Compton.
 
Old 04-17-2012, 06:53 PM
 
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You have got to be kidding me! Once again from the LARGEST and most extensive genetic study of Africans in history, Tishkoff 2009. The S8 table showing the break down of each African sample's ancestral cluster, shows the Igbo people to be over 90% Niger-Kordonfanian just like their surrounding West African populations. The less than 10% remaining is shared with other African specific ancestral clusters. That being said, how in the Hell can you logically attribute their phenotypic diversity to mixture with non Africans? Sahara-tropical Africans have the most phenotypic and genetic diversity on Earth":

That being said here are some of the faces of the ethnicities in Nigeria alone:
1. What is the logic behind you implying that you believe in science by posting a 102 page study and then implying that science goes out the window by posting some random pictures of people you don't know? I already dealt with a bogus video of supposedly pure West African women by pointing out that I knew that one if them is a half-caste and that others are skin bleachers. If you're going to post pictures of random people you need to post their names, contact information, and genetic information or at least family trees to be consistent with your "proof by science."

2. You are an American claiming to know the genetic diversity of all of Africa while simultaneously admitting that Africa is the most genetically diverse continent on the planet. Dear if the Suez Canal and the canals that predated it didn't exist Arabia and Africa would be the same continent and we both know the Suez Canal has only existed for a couple of hundred years. Because we (Africans) have been on this planet longer than any other group of people it is only logical to assume that we have been mixing for a very long time. Europeans and Asians have been coming into Africa for millenia. If people like the Amazigh/Berbers are part of your 100% African blood then African is essentially a vacuous term. We must begin with solid definitions so here is my solid definition of African: people whose ancestry lies entirely within the continent. That means that not a single ancestor ever left. I'm going to narrow my focus to West Africans because those are the only people I can authentically claim to have knowledge about. Unlike you I am not blessed enough to know everything about everybody.

I initially mentioned at least three different West African ethnic groups that are known to have admixture: Tuaregs, Fulanis, and Igbos. You honed in one 1: Igbos. I will,therefore, focus on Igbos. Please note that the data from your scientific study stems from a few thousand Africans who are somehow supposed to be representative of a billion people of which perhaps tens may have been Igbos given that the study didn't give exact numbers for specific ethnic groups analyzed. Furthermore there is no evidence that any of those Igbos in the study had light skin. My non-scientific information stems from the oral history of the ethnic group which indicates that they have significant Jewish ancestry as well as present groups who still practice Judaism. It is true that light skin is not prevalent amongst Igbos though it is certainly a standout feature and it is perfectly logical to conclude that this light skin comes from either Jewish ancestry or more recent miscegenation with Europeans.

Igbo Jews (Nigeria) | Shavei.org

3. West Africa is one of the hottest places on the planet AND the single most difficult place for human life to survive. If you put these two ideas together then it makes no logical sense for light skin to thrive. This is why traditionally dark skinned women were considered more beautiful in Ashanti culture. We were considered to be healthier and hard working ....outdoors on the farm. Beauty, of course is tied to health. While concepts of beauty have changed biology and logic has not. This is the single most obvious reason for the lack of any significant population of light skinned indigenous people in West Africa: it simply doesn't make any more logical sense than stumbling upon dark skin in Iceland.

4.The Niger-Kordofani label that you used, as the study itself says, can be applied to half of the physical area of Africa. It is not very meaningful in and of itself.
 
Old 04-17-2012, 07:08 PM
 
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Hermain Cain is not generalizing a whole race like you. You are taking a statement from one black rapper and acting like the entire black race sat at a round table and agreed with him.

Or maybe you are that ashamed of your people that you're okay with this black thug calling all mixed females "mutts" who exist only for his sexual needs?

First: Kanye West's statement has nothing to do with him being black. I don't know why you are trying to act like him being black has something to do with it. There are people of all races that feel the same. You clearly must think Kanye West represents the black race as a whole or something.

Second: Kanye West is far from a "Black Thug". His mother was a Professor at a university and the chair of the English department. He got A's and B's in school and lived in the suburban Oak Lawn, Illonois. He was a middle class black growing up in a 93% white community.

Looking at his background it is safe to say he does not represent blacks or share the same frame of mind as your common urban African American.

"But know this: they all think less of you and when the chips are down, you're nothing but a worthless half-breed in their eyes. I learned that lesson the hard way."

I'm hardly a worthless half breed in peoples eyes. People don't single me out or call me a "half breed". People accept me and couldn't care less about my race.

"Go ahead...bow down before the Afro-Aryans. But know this: they all think less of you and when the chips are down, you're nothing but a worthless half-breed in their eyes."

Just because the blacks in your family treated you badly you think all blacks are just the same. That's what I'm getting from this. You seem to have something against blacks.
you're serious right???
where to start? i guess you don't listen to rapp. its not one rapper oozing hate for whitey.
the statement had everything to do with his being black.
and he is a thug and a white hater. thuggish is what he did to that young girl at that music award ceremony.
lastly i didn't hear him say all blacks are just the same or has something against blacks.
i heard him say he is tired of all the afrocentric baggage like you're putting out.
 
Old 04-17-2012, 07:21 PM
 
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Ahh...I'll have to explain to a black daughter or black granddaughter why I don't find them sexually attractive

Unless I'm living in the deep south, I doubt that will be a problem...
No, that person's point is that if you show no love or respect for Black women then how can you explain that to the Black women in your family? That's been a question for Black men that "diss" Black women for the longest time and they never have an answer.
 
Old 04-17-2012, 07:32 PM
 
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you're serious right???
where to start? i guess you don't listen to rapp. its not one rapper oozing hate for whitey.
the statement had everything to do with his being black.
and he is a thug and a white hater. thuggish is what he did to that young girl at that music award ceremony.
lastly i didn't hear him say all blacks are just the same or has something against blacks.
i heard him say he is tired of all the afrocentric baggage like you're putting out.
i guess you don't listen to rapp. its not one rapper oozing hate for whitey.


Mac Miller - Party On Fifth Ave - YouTube

Yeah, he looks like he really hates white people.

"i heard him say he is tired of all the afrocentric baggage like you're putting out"

Afrocentric baggage? What type of Afrocentric baggage was I putting out? I never said anything that was afrocentric.

"and he is a thug and a white hater.
"

How do you know he is a white hater?
That statement had nothing to do with white people or him being black. Also, check the demographics of neighborhood he grew up in, his neighborhood was 93% white. He had tons of white friends in school. There goes your Kanye is racist theory.

"thuggish is what he did to that young girl at that music award ceremony."

Saying you deserve an award more is thuggish? That's more snobby than anything.There are tons of white actors and musicians who are just as snobby.

"lastly i didn't hear him say all blacks are just the same or has something against blacks."
I never said he did say it. I said that's what I'm getting from it. That's what it's sounding like to me.
 
Old 04-17-2012, 07:36 PM
 
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I met an intelligent, beautiful woman the other day...she's Ethiopian American, and can't stand hip-hop "music" and plays the viola and loves classical music. She hinted that she wanted to see the Seattle Symphony with someone....
Yep, I'll take a non-black American woman who enjoys things like classical music over a three hundred pound bag of attitude and hair extensions who thinks Edvard Grieg is a venereal disease any day of the week (who the F**** doesn't love Peer Gynt?)
I have yet to meet a black American woman I can relate to. Sorry, but I actually enjoys books and nature and art, not the B.E.T. top forty and looking for who is my real "baby daddy".
1. You do know the Ethiopians are black don't you.

2. Dude, really? You stereotype black women so horribly on this site it's ridiculous. You don't even believe what you typed.

3. So from this abortion of a thread, I have noticed:

You claim to look Hispanic, yet random black people that don't know you come up and harass you for trying to "not be black"

You hate Black American women and foolishly stereotype them anonymously over the internet.

You have family issues. Members of both sides of your family do not like you.

Based upon your own description, you are probably a short version of me. I've been called everything racially ambiguous under the sun and it really hasn't bothered me. The worst "racist" thing that happened to me from "black" people was when Light skinned brothas went out of style. Sometime around the Premiere of New Jack City. lol.

Based on your username you a probably into steampunk literature. Ha.
 
Old 04-18-2012, 12:43 AM
 
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Thank you for finally showing your true colors. This ^^^ is the real you that you have been hiding behind all of the "Black people don't like me" nonsense.
They don't...after years of rejection from my black family, black people in general and the "black community" I have gotten somewhat resentful of them.


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I am a Black American woman (who is not fat and does not wear fake hair or nails) with two Bachelor degrees (working on a Master's) who loves art, international travel, yoga, going to Broaway musicals, attending the opera, hiking, antiquing, etc, etc, etc. I own my own home (townhouse), pay for my own cars, invest my own money, have zero children (illegitimate or otherwise), I come from a very long line of Black business owners and educators...and there are MANY other Black American women who are just like me.
Yes and Matt Hale is a white supremacist organizer with a law degree and a masters, while most of his idiotic comrades are drop-out hillbillies. There are exceptions to every rule. And again, it's not racial...African women are blacker than the Rashondas and Laquaishas, yet they're usually decent people. It's just the awful black American culture to blame.

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So again, thank you for showing the "real" you. All of your complaints about "the Blacks" makes perfect sense now. Hopefully you will one day be blessed with a daughter (who will have your African ancestry even if you marry an albino Swede) and you will be able to explain why you hate "Black" women.
When did I EVER SAY anything against African ancestry? I love Africa and all that it is...it's the black ghetto culture that I can't stand. And if I do have kids, they will have black African in them...but not a drop of N*****er, that's for sure.
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