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I'm too bored to go find my post that you're quoting, but as I recall, I was quoting someone else. I don't remember a single post made by you, but I do recall someone, I can't remember who, accusing me of donating money to Zimm.
So I guess I should ask you; whatever made you think I was referencing you? I wasn't. Goodness! I didn't realize comprehension was so difficult.
OK, here, for your edification. I had to go back a long, long way.
The quote I responded to:
Originally Posted by FancyFeast5000 Obviously the ridicule and no substance strategy, same old, same old again.
Btw, Dale, didn't you post somewhere that you sent Zimmerman money?
The post wasn't difficult for me to find, because you quoted me in it. Why would you quote me for no reason? I hardly need to be "edified" when the post was right there for me to read. I think that the people who were edified were those who donated then watched Zimmerman lie about it at the bond hearing. That would make a person think twice about Zimmerman's story about the night in question.
Free thought goes both ways. Those of us that believe a crime was committed against a teen are not on here to be harassed and vilified. You claim to be making a point about Trayvon's age, then you attack folks who have a different opinion than you. All off topic.
Many folks have served and bled for this country...Black, White, Mexican, Chinese...too many nationalities to even name....that is what our country is founded upon...Freedoms. If you served as you say...than you know that...Trayvon Martin, a Teenager outside his Father's apartment after walking home from the neighborhood mini mart had his freedom taken away by a paranoid gun totting vigilante, simply because he had a hoodie on...????? What is wrong w/ this picture.
I pray for peace within Trayvon's family...I cannot imagine what pain.... beyond their Son's life ending.....that they endure from reading some of the things we all are wittnessing on public media. God Save Our Country.
Well said; you and justNancy have laid out the position of many regular posters in the thread.
Unfortunately, issues like this one become very emotional and there often isn't a gray area. I would need to go back and read your other posts, but many of the posters here who defend Zimmerman's actions have also expressed hatred and bigotry, even applauding the death of a 17 year old.
IMHO that's probably why it's often difficult to be neutral. It's like the abortion issue. I am pro-choice, but I also don't think a woman should have an abortion after 12 weeks. However, I can't discuss abortion at all with someone who is in the pro-life group. If I do, I'm called a baby killer or sinner. Talking about gun laws and shooting an unarmed teenager is almost as emotional, probably more for minorities, since the victim was Black. I have had my share of problems in life, and I've experienced discrimination because of my age and gender, but I don't know what it is like to be judged because of my skin color. We all know that, had Martin been White, Zimmerman wouldn't have followed him. It doesn't mean Zimmerman is a racist, only that he was focused on catching a young, Black male, and it's possible this had become an obsession. After all, he was on 2 prescriptions for attention deficit disorder and anxiety. I'm not completely normal either (who is?) but when you take a troubled person and give him a gun, it can become a deadly combination.
You zealots amaze me. I never suggested anything. You retorted to someones post. Your words Because we all know property is so much more important than a human life. I never claimed inferred or suggested Trayvon was a thief or had a flat screen tv. Kindly show me where I did. . I stand by this.
Zimmerman assumed many things, just like you seem to be assuming when you attempt to put words in my mouth.
" I said My property is worth more to me than a thief's life"
If someone steals your car in your driveway and you shoot him in the back while he's pulling away with it, you're going to jail for murder 2. I don't care what state you're living in.
Zimmerman lived on the other side of the development, so he was not near the townhouse he was renting in February. I've mentioned this before, but then someone always comes along and writes that perhaps he took an alternate route when he was on his way to Target. He said that he noticed Martin when he was on his way to Target, but the area where the body was found is not the entrance/exit he would have taken. Most people use the most convenient exit, the one closest to home. So this proves that he was also following Martin while driving, which would probably make the victim even more nervous. I mean, first he follows him in his car and then he gets out of the car to search for him. Wouldn't anyone with common sense want to defend himself against this fruitcake?
The whole scenario where Zimmerman was going to Target is a red herring. That's part of Zimmerman's alibi to protect him from the fact that Neighborhood Watch are strictly forbidden from carrying guns. Open or concealed. If Zimmerman was patroling the neighborhood with a gun, then his rear end is grass as they say. Going to Target is his defense for carrying at the time and frankly I don't think that will hold up in court.
" I said My property is worth more to me than a thief's life"
If someone steals your car in your driveway and you shoot him in the back while he's pulling away with it, you're going to jail for murder 2. I don't care what state you're living in.
Newsflash:
Sweet Little Trayvon wasn't shot in the back.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mohawkx
The whole scenario where Zimmerman was going to Target is a red herring. That's part of Zimmerman's alibi to protect him from the fact that Neighborhood Watch are strictly forbidden from carrying guns. Open or concealed. If Zimmerman was patroling the neighborhood with a gun, then his rear end is grass as they say. Going to Target is his defense for carrying at the time and frankly I don't think that will hold up in court.
Apparently the concept of 'carry' has eluded you.
He can carry a gun wherever he wants and especially on property where he lives.
He can carry a gun wherever he wants and especially on property where he lives.
Good Grief!
Tinman1 say's
" I said My property is worth more to me than a thief's life"
I Wasn't referring to Trayvon, I was referring to the statement that tinman made, concerning the concept that "property trumps life". I and all state's laws concerning use of deadly force, disagree with this concept.
He most certainly CANNOT carry a gun if he is acting in the capacity of a neighborhood watch. No police dept in the land will allow their neighborhood watch personnel to go about their duties armed. This is the first rule you learn when you recieve training. Funny, After the first few days, all the Rambos usually get bored and leave.
FYI: I carry 100% of the time, except when I'm doing neighborhood watch.
Your agenda is showing, Cooper. This is exactly what the far right want. To be able to walk around armed, sanctioned by the local leos, cleaning up the neighborhood from what they percieve as threats, vigilante style. Personal and swift justice at the hands of your neighbor.
Well, that ain't ever going to happen, scooter and there are people who will fight to prevent it.
There was a case in New Orleans years ago where a guy on his second
floor apartment balcony shot and killed a guy who was breaking into his van.
He was charged (don't remember with what) and acquitted.
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I think that the people who were edified were those who donated then watched Zimmerman lie about it at the bond hearing. That would make a person think twice about Zimmerman's story about the night in question.
