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Old 05-31-2012, 07:38 AM
 
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Few blacks look mixed, and mixed people look different from light skinned blacks...does Vin Diesel look black?

Most "brothas" who don't know me assume I'm Latino or Indian.
Van Diesel I thought was a white dude. Many of us have pretty dark skin like many Italians and Arabs.

 
Old 05-31-2012, 07:47 AM
 
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My friend some things will ever change in this world.They just become a matter of fact. Infact I for see color stratifaction becoming a bigger problems for in the coming years. The racial context of the US has never truly changed.
You may be right.

Before with the one drop rule it was simple. You were white if you didn't have any black ancestors and otherwise you were black.

People may become even worse now that there is more ambiguity. Especially with the government coming up with more and more boxes for people to think about and check.

Or we will become more and more like Latin America where virtually everyone is mixed black and white and focus more on wealth and social status, and develop a two class society like is traditional with Latin Americans, not based as much on race but of course correlating closely with it but you're either rich or you're poor. You might be like Oprah or Obama and very very rich, or you're out grubbing for money so you can eat.
 
Old 05-31-2012, 12:19 PM
 
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You may be right.

Before with the one drop rule it was simple. You were white if you didn't have any black ancestors and otherwise you were black.

People may become even worse now that there is more ambiguity. Especially with the government coming up with more and more boxes for people to think about and check.

Or we will become more and more like Latin America where virtually everyone is mixed black and white and focus more on wealth and social status, and develop a two class society like is traditional with Latin Americans, not based as much on race but of course correlating closely with it but you're either rich or you're poor. You might be like Oprah or Obama and very very rich, or you're out grubbing for money so you can eat.
Yes, we should copy Latin Americas example, or maybe the Middle East, or India. Of course it's always "Better" since it's somewhere else. In the mean time many people from those countries is trying to come here

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Old 05-31-2012, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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A better question, considering that we all started in Africa, is Who is white? We all have one drop of black blood. It's just as easy to view us all in various shades of darkness as shades of whiteness.
 
Old 05-31-2012, 04:24 PM
 
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A better question, considering that we all started in Africa, is Who is white? We all have one drop of black blood. It's just as easy to view us all in various shades of darkness as shades of whiteness.
True, but humans will argue over anything. It might as well bicker about skin tone and features as anything else.
 
Old 05-31-2012, 04:31 PM
 
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Yes, we should copy Latin Americas example, or maybe the Middle East, or India. Of course it's always "Better" since it's somewhere else. In the mean time many people from those countries is trying to come here
Few and fewer are choosing to come to the United States.
 
Old 05-31-2012, 04:37 PM
 
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I think a lot has to do with skin color. A guy who's real light like Lena Horne AND doesn't have the wide flat nose, kinky hair and so on would be wise to NOT call himself "Black" cause most "real" Black people wouldn't see him as a brotha.
Funny Ice-T is a light skin Black man that very few Black people that I know have a problem identifying him as a "Brotha".

It's not just physical appearance, a lot of it has to do how you grew up and who you CHOOSE to identify with.

You post indicates you have hell of lot to learn about Black people.
 
Old 05-31-2012, 04:53 PM
 
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Funny Ice-T is a light skin Black man that very few Black people that I know have a problem identifying him as a "Brotha".

It's not just physical appearance, a lot of it has to do how you grew up and who you CHOOSE to identify with.

You post indicates you have hell of lot to learn about Black people.
Yup. Racial self-identification is much more cultural than physical. In a community where everyone shares similar beliefs, participates in the same things, sounds and dresses similarly, and there are no great economic differences, race tends to become relatively unimportant.
 
Old 05-31-2012, 05:00 PM
 
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True, but humans will argue over anything. It might as well bicker about skin tone and features as anything else.
Actually, the way the topic is worded it is about genetics, not skin tone or features. When two people who are racially related or not pro-create a child they can take on the skin color or features of one or the other or a mix. There are light skinned blacks and darker skinned whites but what we cannot change is our genetics.
 
Old 05-31-2012, 06:37 PM
 
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Funny Ice-T is a light skin Black man that very few Black people that I know have a problem identifying him as a "Brotha".

It's not just physical appearance, a lot of it has to do how you grew up and who you CHOOSE to identify with.

You post indicates you have hell of lot to learn about Black people.
What you just said goes BOTH ways. I've known several anglo white people with a Black grandparent. I said "anglo white" cause they DON'T consider themselves "Black", probably they don't wanna be counted as a hood rat.
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