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You know, something just occurred to me. Since this is a tax, per the Supreme Court, Obama is the president now responsible for taxing us for being alive. That's right. If you exist and live in this country, you pay the tax via buying health insurance or pay the penalty for not having it.
More than that a precedent has been set for the Federal Government to now tax you for inaction, for NOT doing something. At least before you were taxed for buying something, gas or something. Now you can be taxed for failing to do something. Didn't exercise this week? That'll be an additional tax, Sir.
It's also very possible that Roberts did this because he's a lawyer and understand law.
Have you ever actually talked to any lawyers about this case? My brother is one and I've talked to several. Liberal or conservative, they all agreed that the SC should vote in favor of the mandate due to precedent.
which precedent?
because that matters. if you refer to the commerse clause, the Chief Justice disagrees. He upheld the law because he says it is a tax and therefore within congresses perview.
However, if that is true then Obama LIED to us when this was being debated and voted on because he said then it was NOT a tax.
precedent is not the issue. any good lawyer not clouded by personal desire to see universal healthcare understands that.
We have no choice but to live with the ruling. But it needs to be very clear that Mr. Obama and the democrats LIED to the American people.
Not to mention they focused on healthcare while the economy was aflame. nice. we still have not recovered BECAUSE Mr. Obama was more interested in getting a healthcare bill passed than he was saving millions of American JOBS.
how about telling your grandchildren that once upon a time, the people of the USA actually had rights. rights that the goverment did not dare tread upon. rights where the goverment was not expected to be nanny from cradle to grave, rights we dont have anymore too.
Seriously considering dropping my insurance. The next time I go to the doctor I'll say "send the bill to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, Washington DC, 20500"
Seriously do the math, you might pay less to just pay out of pocket.
If you're paying more for insurance than out of pocket, drop it and pay the penalty. There's no longer any risk under Obamacare. You can get insurance again in case something happens because he removed the pre-existing clause with Obamacare. Law of unintended consequences, it's going to be Obama's bane.
More than that a precedent has been set for the Federal Government to now tax you for inaction, for NOT doing something. At least before you were taxed for buying something, gas or something. Now you can be taxed for failing to do something. Didn't exercise this week? That'll be an additional tax, Sir.
Yep. This is an unprecedented tax. Obama = the Tax President.
More than that a precedent has been set for the Federal Government to now tax you for inaction, for NOT doing something. At least before you were taxed for buying something, gas or something. Now you can be taxed for failing to do something. Didn't exercise this week? That'll be an additional tax, Sir.
This is true.. we lost our freedom when they turned a mandate into a tax.. they still have the mandate on us through a tax. Nothing was defeated. The mandate stands and the constitution was duped and the people who are not paying attention is duped.
Chief Justice Roberts just handed the election to Romney. By defining the Obamacare individual mandate as unconstitutional under the commerce clause but constitutional as a "tax" makes Obama and the democrats responsible for passing the largest tax increase "in history" on the middle class. It also closes the door on using the commerce clause for any further mandates on tbe people. Obama and the democrats lied to us yet again and now they are forced to admit the truth. Obamacare is nothing but a humongous tax and as a result millions of jobs will be lost because small businesses can not pay the outrageous tax imposed by Obama and the democrats.
That "tax' penalty goes to the federal government's general fund, and gets spent on their special interest pork projects or redecorating their offices, it does not go to lessen the burden on the hospitals, doctors, patients or insurance company.
No, the Fed is subsidizing up to 96% of premiums to those that qualify.
It's not just pay or tax. You are going to get taxed as well. The penalty is just if you don't get insurance.
There are additional taxes because the government is subsidizing premiums.
Exactly. The poor still don't pay anything but get even more benefits on the backs of the middle class. Oh and the rich? They don't have insurance either. They can just pay out of pocket or if they do have insurance, only have a catastrophic plan.
If I'm understanding it correctly, a guy who earns $35,000 a year, and can't afford $5,000 a year or more, for Obama's Cadillac health insurance mandate, will not only go w/o health insurance, but Obama will punish him with a $2,200 tax penalty.
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