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Old 07-03-2012, 02:25 AM
 
Location: Up in the air
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"I know of at least 5 pro life women Christian women who have had abortions"

Sounds like half a story.

I'm confident the rest of their stories are something like "regret over this decision changed their lives", but we won't hear that part, will we?



Opposing abortion isn't a religious matter, if for no other reason than religions which uniformly condemn abortion agree on little else.

Those who support abortion would have us believe religious fundamentalists are attempting to end abortion and require people to attend weekly Bible study.

This is a straw man and is the most common argument for abortion.

Well, it's not really an argument for abortion as much as it is an argument against arguing against abortion.

See, everyone, to include the most sincere of abortion advocates, knows an abortion kills a living being which can only be a person.

Whether God exists or not, each of us has the tiny amount of reason required to understand that a fetus and a baby are the exact same thing.

The amount of time a fetus has spent developing after conception has no bearing on its status as a person because it has never been anything other than a person.

This is obvious because no other event takes place from conception until natural death during which the fundamental nature of this organism changes.

DNA doesn't wait until the middle of the second trimester to form.

The sex of the baby isn't on hold for twenty-one weeks.

Growth, as marked by cell division, begins on day one of the pregnancy.

All of this is ignored by people who understand abortion kills a baby.

Their reasons for supporting abortion are unrelated to obvious facts.

Slogans like "right to choose" are used to gloss over the reality of ending someone else's life.

Nothing is now taking place in the Western World which hasn't taken place throughout man's history.

Helpless, often conquered, people are declared non-persons by a state entity.

Slavery and murder are then justified because the victims are officially not human.

It's tremendously convenient for those who would prefer to not be bothered with the fundamental God-given rights of others.

I would even go so far as to say the power associated with having the legal authority to kill a specific class of individuals has an intoxicating effect.

With that, the rationalizations excusing what is arguably the most inhuman act imaginable meets precious little scrutiny.
Half a story? I was involved with the pro life movement many years ago. These women got the abortions because 'they weren't ready for a child' and then went right back to protesting abortions. For some reason they felt that their abortion was alright, but other womens abortions were because they were 'skanks, whores and sluts'. They were 'good girls' who just had an accident. Again, do as I say, not as I do.

Your argument from emotion doesn't work with me, sorry. I used all your arguments at one point when I was on the pro life side so I've heard them all. I've met with and spoken with many, many women who have had abortions, have you? When I was involved with the pro life movement I realized how hypocritical and dangerous these pro life people were. They would think nothing of shooting and killing an escort who walked women up to the clinic and they were very open about lying to women regarding fetal development and risks with carrying the fetus to term.

I'm firmly pro-choice. I support the choice of women. Period.
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Old 07-03-2012, 02:44 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Half a story? I was involved with the pro life movement many years ago. These women got the abortions because 'they weren't ready for a child' and then went right back to protesting abortions. For some reason they felt that their abortion was alright, but other womens abortions were because they were 'skanks, whores and sluts'. They were 'good girls' who just had an accident. Again, do as I say, not as I do.
"The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion" - When the Anti-Choice Choose
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Old 07-03-2012, 03:04 AM
 
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Eye opening.
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Old 07-03-2012, 03:05 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Whether God exists or not, each of us has the tiny amount of reason required to understand that a fetus and a baby are the exact same thing.
You're are so wrong, I can only pity you. Of course, there is a vast difference between a fetus and a baby. God knows that perfectly well. If you're so right, then why did one of the most highly God fearing and most conservative states in the union, Mississippi, vote down personhood?

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Old 07-03-2012, 03:29 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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I read it. I have seldom heard such sick and morally disgusting hypocrisy in my life.
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Old 07-03-2012, 03:32 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles, California
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Old 07-03-2012, 03:33 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles, California
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Old 07-03-2012, 03:34 AM
 
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Old 07-03-2012, 04:00 AM
 
Location: Up in the air
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You're are so wrong, I can only pity you. Of course, there is a vast difference between a fetus and a baby. God knows that perfectly well. If you're so right, then why did one of the most highly God fearing and most conservative states in the union, Mississippi, vote down personhood?
Oddly, the concept of 'life at conception' is fairly new. Even the most orthodox religious sects ok'd abortion until 'quickening' for a long time. In fact, nearly all societies allowed abortion. It seems to me the anti-choicers are more about controlling women instead of caring about the fetus. Once people have power, they will do anything to keep it... women are making their own decisions and a lot of people aren't happy about relinquishing the power over us. They won't give it up without a fight and all this 'baby' stuff is nothing but a smokescreen.
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Old 07-03-2012, 04:07 AM
 
Location: Earth
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Why am i not shocked that a religious based link is being provided here?
Funny how some people never find secular links to support your "claims".
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