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Old 07-07-2012, 11:17 AM
 
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Prosecuter wants 2 1/2 year jail sentence on top of $12,180 fine...Jesus help us!
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Old 07-07-2012, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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All you anti-assembly people had better not host any Monday Night Football games at your home this fall.

The blatant attack on Christian gathering and Bible study in this case couldn't be more obvious - the man and his family are being attacked because of their faith. Any secular regular meeting would not be met with such force.

Did you hear what the prosecutor called him - a rebel? Yep - exercise your constitutional liberty and you become a rebel - and thus an enemy of the state.

This is what America has degenerated into - we are now practically no different than a banana republic.
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Old 07-07-2012, 11:19 AM
 
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Building codes apply whether you host people for bible study or orgies.
Yes but generally speaking they are ignored by people and the government unless they are holding an orgy every weekend.
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Old 07-07-2012, 11:21 AM
 
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Will you be giving the liquor away for free?

Remember - this man was not selling anything. He was holding a bible study.
Not liquor, Jesus Juice, and it will be free for the ladies on Thursday nights from 10pm - 1am.
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Old 07-07-2012, 11:22 AM
 
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All you anti-assembly people had better not host any Monday Night Football games at your home this fall.
Any or all? While legally there is no difference in reality if this person was holding a single event he wouldn't bothered just as if you held a single MNF party.
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Old 07-07-2012, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Not liquor, Jesus Juice, and it will be free for the ladies on Thursday nights from 10pm - 1am.
I don't know what "Jesus Juice" is.

I thought that you said you were going to open up a bar?
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Old 07-07-2012, 11:25 AM
 
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Yes but generally speaking they are ignored by people and the government unless they are holding an orgy every weekend.
And this guy was holding worship and bible study 3 times a week - including every weekend - at his church. Apparently the neighbors have been complaining to the city for years.
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Old 07-07-2012, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Any or all? While legally there is no difference in reality if this person was holding a single event he wouldn't bothered just as if you held a single MNF party.
All - the Phoenix prosecutor would not go to the extremes that they did for someone who hosted MNF games - people do this regularly - in various location. They hold poker games also - which technically - are illegal gatherings regardless of the building code. Have you ever heard of one being cited for building code violations?
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Old 07-07-2012, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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And this guy was holding worship and bible study 3 times a week - including every weekend - at his church. Apparently the neighbors have been complaining to the city for years.
No - it was not at his church - it was at his home.
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Old 07-07-2012, 11:26 AM
 
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Oh??? I don't know about that. After all, it is his own home, and what he is doing is in the privacy of his on home. This is none of the city's concern. If he put up a sign advertising his so called 'church', in a residential neighborhood, then maybe the neighbors and city might have reason to object. There was nothing in the news that said it was a church or that he put up a sign in front of his home saying it was a church. My pastor has Bible study in his home. We gather at 6:00 PM on Thursday night, socialize a little bit with a glass of wine, have supper, sing a few songs then study the Bible. There is about 12 of us, but we could have fourty, it's nobody's business how many we have. To reach his house we have to park on the street, there is no emergency exit signs and there is no special entrances provisions for the disabled. For all the neighbor's and and cities business is concerned, it's just a weekly social event.
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It is a sad day in America when our freedom of assembly and freedom to practice religion as guaranteed by the First Amendment - and paid for by blood - are being denied and those who assemble and worship are being charged with "crimes" and possibly being thrown in jail.

Remember - this is what happens when you elect godless, intolerant, anti-Constitution Democrats - they will try to tear our foundations down brick by brick.

Let's pray for this man and his family - vote for religious freedom and protection of the Constitution in Novemember - and hope that if nothing else - this case goes to the Supreme Court now that he is found "guilty".

We are becoming like North Korea a little more everyday.
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All you anti-assembly people had better not host any Monday Night Football games at your home this fall.

The blatant attack on Christian gathering and Bible study in this case couldn't be more obvious - the man and his family are being attacked because of their faith. Any secular regular meeting would not be met with such force.

Did you hear what the prosecutor called him - a rebel? Yep - exercise your constitutional liberty and you become a rebel - and thus an enemy of the state.

This is what America has degenerated into - we are now practically no different than a banana republic.
"I read these as:

"""We christians don't need no stinkin' laws! We is CHRISTIANS and laws are for heathens....and anyway we can get around a law we will! It's the christian way! having our tax free churches isn't enough for us tax SUCKINGLeeches!!""""
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