Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 07-19-2012, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
20,054 posts, read 18,291,205 times
Reputation: 3826

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by buzzards27 View Post
That's becuz the isn't a single entrepreneur, businesses man, inventor that hasn't built off of what was already there. The automobile is simply an extension of the horse drawn carriage industry. Without the foundation of the carriage industry, developed over many centuries by millions of other craftsmen and artisans.

Electricity??? People have been toying with electricity for thousands of years. There is evidence that crude batteries and lights going back to the earliest historic civilizations. The latest electronic inventions being made today are built on the foundations thousands of years ago.

Did "government" aid those developments? Heck yes, almost at every step. Without a royal benefactor and sponsor inventors like Devinci would never have developed their sciences. Schools to expand know knowledge have always been funded by the government. Without a government sponsored education inventors would be inventing the same things each generation. Education allows us to build on the last generations invention.

You drive on roads YOU didn't build...
I agree with you. The small business owner paid into the system to develop this infrastructure he later used to make his business successful. Fortunately, the government is merely the middle man between the small businessowner's forced tax payment and the private company who built the road, and as such the gov gets virtually no credit.

 
Old 07-19-2012, 10:43 AM
 
Location: None of your business
5,466 posts, read 4,424,993 times
Reputation: 1179
Quote:
Originally Posted by Driller1 View Post
Almost half of the country pays no income tax.
And people argue that half the country not paying income tax is fair?
 
Old 07-19-2012, 10:44 AM
 
Location: None of your business
5,466 posts, read 4,424,993 times
Reputation: 1179
Quote:
Originally Posted by eRayP
Nope, I can't take credit, only the paying taxes part that helped paid the seals and supporting staff. At least I can say that. People who don't pay taxes took no part in helping. See, I don't mind paying taxes for something like this.
Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Driller1
Whoa.....

I do not pay income tax......I put my money back into my business.

This keeps the economy moving.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Driller1 View Post
???????

I do not know what you want to know.....
Explain your post so it makes sense. Or are you just spouting?
 
Old 07-19-2012, 10:48 AM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
10,216 posts, read 8,122,688 times
Reputation: 2037
Quote:
Originally Posted by summers73 View Post
I agree with you. The small business owner paid into the system to develop this infrastructure he later used to make his business successful. Fortunately, the government is merely the middle man between the small businessowner's forced tax payment and the private company who built the road, and as such the gov gets virtually no credit.
Nope. The government provides security, rule, and stability. Much than just a middle man and it has been this way ever since.
 
Old 07-19-2012, 10:50 AM
 
Location: None of your business
5,466 posts, read 4,424,993 times
Reputation: 1179
Quote:
Originally Posted by summers73
Obama says unless you pay taxes or voted for people to make others pay, you don't qualify. Nevermind if you provided goods and services that trickled down to the troops. Nope, unless you directly mailed a check to the IRS (or voted for people to make others do it), you don't count.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Driller1 View Post
That is OK.....Obama does not count with me.

I would never let him use my money.
Ok, so you are not counted because you do not pay taxes. Yet you use everything, infrastructure, roads, etc.. that people who do pay taxes pay for. Your next sentence you say that you would Never let him use your money? You need to rephrase that "you would never let him use "other peoples money" that you legally took from people.

Even though you don't pay taxes you want Obama to raise taxes on people who DO pay taxes.

Wow! Do I understand this correctly?
 
Old 07-19-2012, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Texas
14,076 posts, read 20,537,557 times
Reputation: 7807
A question for our self-reliant, rugged individualist businessmen here:

Would you consider opening your business in Haiti or rural Chad or Bangladesh? The customer base is there. Heck you can sell those people just about anything because they have so little.

Why or why not?
 
Old 07-19-2012, 10:58 AM
 
Location: None of your business
5,466 posts, read 4,424,993 times
Reputation: 1179
And if you do get welfare, remember, the people who cut your check and mail your welfare check to you also pay taxes. The mailman who puts the check in your mailbox also pays taxes. The person who exchanges your welfare check for cash also pays taxes. The people who you buy groceries from also pay taxes. They pay taxes so you, the welfare slug can get money you didn't earn. No wonder you are voting for Obama.
 
Old 07-19-2012, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
6,721 posts, read 5,204,343 times
Reputation: 1378
Quote:
Originally Posted by summers73 View Post
I agree with you. The small business owner paid into the system to develop this infrastructure he later used to make his business successful. Fortunately, the government is merely the middle man between the small businessowner's forced tax payment and the private company who built the road, and as such the gov gets virtually no credit.
What is the role of government? Could a single businessman have built the Hoover Dam? Could the Panama Canal have been built without the government pulling the forces needed together? Where would we be without Ike's interstate system? That would the shoreline of the oceans, lakes and rivers look like if the government didn't coordinate the protective barriers, harbors, levees, dams, and navigational channels they provide? Could individual property owners each protect their shoreline in a coordinated effort?
 
Old 07-19-2012, 11:02 AM
 
20,462 posts, read 12,390,108 times
Reputation: 10259
Focus people! Barak Obama want to punnish success! Wherever he finds it!
 
Old 07-19-2012, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
20,054 posts, read 18,291,205 times
Reputation: 3826
Quote:
Originally Posted by dv1033 View Post
Nope. The government provides security, rule, and stability. Much than just a middle man and it has been this way ever since.
Since the money to establish such activity is obtained from the small businessowner, they are still just the middle man.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Closed Thread


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:27 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top